Great middleweights beating top five contenders

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  1. Unforgiven

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    I don't have the relevant Ring magazine rankings. But he beat Cerdan two months before Cerdan beat him, and then figured at #5 in Ring's ratings a few months later. So it is possible.
     
  2. McGrain

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    It is and I think it's likely.

    I'm 99% sure Georgie was number five too, he took out the champ, so it's all down to Williams.

    The problem with Williams is I suspect he was eliminated from the top five before he met Cerdan by Bert Lytell. Either two or three months before. But I don't know that - he might have been number five, because he was beaten when he was number two.
     
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  3. Unforgiven

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    I wonder how Ezzard Charles scores on this?
     
  4. Jester

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    Lloyd Marshall might be worth a look. He has a lot of impressive wins, although how many of them occurred at the middleweight limit I'm not sure of.
     
  5. Golden_Feather99

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    GGG has 2 more wins- Lemieux (ranked top 5 by both Ring & TBRB) and Murray (ranked #4 by TBRB but #6 by Ring).
     
  6. Jpreisser

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    I think Proksa needs removed, however. The Ring had him at #9 before the Golovkin fight. Proksa was as high as #4 before he was upset by Hope in early 2012, though I recall there being controversy around the decision. Of course if Golovkin had actually gotten Pirog, the original opponent, that would constitute another.
     
  7. George Crowcroft

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    I'd wager he has just one, might be two. Teddy definitely wasn't ranked; Burley definitely was, though. Basora was fresh off a win over LaMotta, but Jake was quite young then and both Jake and Jose were yet to fight Robinson. Just checked, both Burley and Basora were ranked top five.
     
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  8. George Crowcroft

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    Wow, I just checked Burley's record and I could only see two guys he beat who were top five at the time. Holman Williams and Joe Carter.
     
  9. George Crowcroft

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    Massively cheating, as he had already left middleweight for Zale, but Billy Conn?

    Teddy Yarosz
    Vince Dundee
    Young Corbett III
    Solly Krieger
    Tony Zale

    I understand perfectly why this will not count but I do not accept it. Either way, four's pretty good.

    Edit: Oh silly me, how could I have forgotten Steele's demolition of Dundee. Bollocks. Maybe Risko was top five?? :hang
     
  10. BELLERS

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    Could Tony Sibson be added to Hagler's list ?
     
  11. JohnThomas1

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    Beyond a shadow of a doubt.
     
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