Great New List of top 25 HWs

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  1. Phys

    Phys Well-Known Member Full Member

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  2. Phys

    Phys Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Correction:
    He had Louis #2 and Foreman #3.
     
  3. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    Vitali on the list at all kind of pisses me off, and Holyfield outside of the top 8 also pisses me off. They had to go and put him right above Holy though, just to make it worse.

    *******s.
     
  4. Phys

    Phys Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not a K Bro fan either. But due to size and other factors, they have to be up there somewhere. Where do u have him?
     
  5. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    List is sh*t. Why? Criteria. He more or less admits it himself:

    Too much of all of that.
     
  6. Phys

    Phys Well-Known Member Full Member

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    And any other list is different????
     
  7. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lists with better criterias, sure.
     
  8. Phys

    Phys Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Such as?

    All such lists are subjective, and IMO most are far worse, wth people claiming Louis and Marciano would have beaten all the later HW champs, who were bigger, stronger, longer reach, or had other attributes that indicated they would have beaten those 2.

    SO to me this list was a breath of fresh air.
     
  9. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Resume. Achievements.

    Just because one fighter is ranked above another fighter doesn´t mean he would beat him.

    Just because a fighter is bigger and has a longer reach doesn´t mean he is stronger or better.

    You want fesh air? Go outside. Nothing fresh about this list. Plenty of similar lists are posted and written everyday all over the globe.
     
  10. Hookie

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    I get tired of these lists. Just another assholes opinion. First of all, all the really short and really light guys probably wouldn't do very well vs. the likes of Ali, Holmes, Holyfield, Foreman, Lewis, Bowe, V. Klitschko, and V. Klitschko. These guys had the right combination of size, skill, and durability. Some more durable than others.

    As much as I like guys like Charles, Tunney, Dempsey, Patterson, Langford, etc... I don't see them doing much vs. these guys.

    I rank Louis, Marciano, and Frazier high but they didn't have the same combination of size, skill, and durability as the first group mentioned. Yes, Marciano was very durable but very small. Louis was down quite a bit. Frazier was destroyed by Foreman... I doubt Foreman could have done that to Holmes, Holyfield, Bowe, V. Klitschko, and some others.

    Tyson and Liston are an interesting pair. Liston didn't beat too many giants. I think Liston gets overrated sometimes. I think they both deserve a high ranking though.

    Norton and Patterson are interesting as well. Could give many good HWs a beat down or at least a good fight but not always the most durable guys. Honestly though, I don't think much seperates Norton and Frazier but Frazier is always seen as the better fighter.

    Sullivan, Jeffries, Johnson, Wills, and some others... different times, almost a different sport in my opinion. Johnson was ahead of his time though.
     
  11. Mendoza

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  12. guilalah

    guilalah Well-Known Member Full Member

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    John Vale,
    contributor, B/R (Bleacher Report)
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    "The criteria is this—how good they were at their best, and how often they were at their best."

    25. Sam Langford
    24. 'Jersey' Joe Walcott
    23. Ken Norton
    22. Max Schmeling
    21. Riddick Bowe
    20. Ezzard Charles
    19 Harry Wills
    18. Floyd Patterson
    17. John L Sullivan
    16. Wladmir Klitschko
    15. Gene Tunney
    14. Evander Holyfield
    13. Vitali Klitschko
    12. James J. Jeffries
    11. Larry Holmes
    10. Sonny Liston
    9. Rocky Marciano
    8. Jack Dempsey
    7. Lennox Lewis
    6. Joe Frazier
    5. Jack Johnson
    4. Mike Tyson
    3. George Foreman
    2. Joe Louis
    1. Muhammad Ali
     
  13. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    edit : sorry this is a **** list , Jack Johnson #5 , Louis @#2 , Frazier @ 6 , Dempsey @ 8 !! , Tunney , Norton , Schmelling , Charles , Patterson , too much to bare !
     
  14. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    True. :thumbsup
     
  15. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You know there something wrong with a list when Vitali Klitsckho is placed above Evander Holyfield (and even Wladmir Klit)