Great performance by Vitali, but let us all not forget...

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  1. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That 6 years ago, a younger Vitali was TKOed by a 38 yrs old, unmotiavated, inactive and at his heaviest weight ever Lennox Lewis. :deal

    Imagine what a prime, younger and motivated Lewis would have done to him and the rest of the HW pretenders today. :think :smooch
     
  2. Haggis McJackass

    Haggis McJackass Semi-neutralist Overseer Full Member

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    Vitali would likely have beaten Lewis fairly handily if he hadn't had to fight with half his ****ing face hanging off his skull.

    The monster cut was caused by a punch, Lennox fought well and the stoppage was completely legit, but it was a fortunate victory for Lewis. If that first big cut hadn't opened up, then Lennox would have been in big, big trouble.

    That's neither here nor there, but I am quite confident that no other 38 year old heavyweight, with the possible exception of Foreman, would have stood a chance against Vitali. In my eyes, Lewis' last victory was one of his greatest performances. He showed true grit and fighting spirit that night.

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  3. Cachibatches

    Cachibatches Boxing Junkie banned

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    Lewis truly was the man. I was a fan ever since the Olympics. They made a big deal out of Bowe and his story, and then Lewis went out there and just stuck him. After that, Rudock, Golota, Grant, Tyson- dominant perfomances. And yeah, he dug down deep and found what he needed to beat Vitali, who is no slouch in there.

    About 70% of me wants Lewis to stay retired (which he is probably going to do anyway). But I would be lying if I didn't say that there is a part of me that would like to see one more.

    And it is a testiment to Lewis' greatness that all of these years later, the best heavyweight fight that could be made still has his name on it.
     
  4. amagerfc

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    Vitali is by far the best heavyweight out there. No one belongs in the ring with him. Lewis is not going to stay retired!!
    He will think: If Vitali can?? I can!!
    And yes...he could come back tomorrow and still beat a man like Samuel Peter! He could beat anyone but the Klitchko brothers!
    Must admit though that he would have a 40-50% chanse against Vladimir, but against Vitali? Less than 20%.........
    Ragards
    Boris
     
  5. Sputnik44

    Sputnik44 Active Member Full Member

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    Are you that upset about the win you have to bring **** up from 6 years ago? VK won and you need to deal with it
     
  6. the_what

    the_what Bolo Punch KO Full Member

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    No doubt Vitali would have gottem KOed in the 7th
     
  7. joeboxer

    joeboxer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I wonder if the same people who criticized Vitali for stopping vs. byrd due to a legit injury will critize Peter for stopping because he was completely outclassed with the same voracity.
     
  8. Cachibatches

    Cachibatches Boxing Junkie banned

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    Well, I don't know. Seems to me that Lewis has no plans, although boredom, mid life crisis, money and ego are damned powerful motivators.

    AS for who wins, well, I always point out that scar tissue does not heal, and if Lewis could get himself into decent shape, I don't see any reason why Lewis could not stay at the end of a jab and win the same way.
     
  9. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Absolutely :cool:
     
  10. twopiece

    twopiece Pugilistic Ambassador Full Member

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    Prime Lennox destroys Vitali. Come on now people this is getting ridiculous.

    Don't get me started on Wlad vs a prime Lennox. :lol:

    The fact is that the Klitschko's are able to pummel the fat, lazy heavyweight of today who only seeks to get a shot at a payday and cash out. Peter took his beating and is headed all the way to the bank.

    The managers and promoter of today seem to only want fighters to get a shot and get paid...win or lose. No heavyweight seems to care about legacy beside the Klitschko's. They are always in shape and they are usually have a size advantage over their ooponents. Tonite all those things applied to VK vs Peter but the fact that VK is skilled and Peter is not made things as one sided as they turned out.

    The division will be even worse once the two brothers retire. There are no heavyweights on the horizon that are serious about taking over. Povetkin will lose to Wlad and his management seems to want that payday more than a title. Solis is fat and not taking things seriously. Haye hasn't fought yet and Barrett just might stop him from ever getting started. Arreola was fat his last time out and has no defense.

    Holyfield is old and shot. Toney is fat, old, and shot. Valuev is a sideshow. Brewster has had too many wars and was injured and shot before the Wlad rematch. Chagaev doesn't want to fight anyone with a pulse. Rahman ????? Briggs ???? David Tua? :rofl

    Heavyweight boxing is at an all time low. Prime Lennox would probably retire just to avoid wasting his time.
     
  11. KCD

    KCD All aboard. Full Member

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    Another excuse for a shitty Lewis performance:lol:

    Lewis gets ko'd off Mcall.....he was stopped to fast and would hase beaten MCall idf allowed to continue:patsch

    Lewis was ko'd off Rahman and it was a "lucky" punch and it was Lewis's fault because he didnt train properly:lol:

    Lewis then fought Klitshko, it was a tough fight, but Lewis would have ko'd him if they had let it carry on:-(


    The fact is Lewis was training for Kirk Johnson so he wasnt fully prepared for Vitali, but Vitali was training for a different fighter and he also wasnt prepared for Lewis.......it swings both ways Lewis ball lickers.

    Also Lewis promised Vitali the rematch and pussied out of it, which is ironic if you think he took Rahman to court and forced him to have an immediate rematch AND.....and this is a big AND after the Vitali fight he was trying to take Tyson to court to force a rematch that was in the contract.
     
  12. skipdog

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    Lewis was a notch above the Klitsckos...
     
  13. socrates

    socrates THE ORIGINAL... Full Member

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    GTFO hater...
     
  14. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Vitali would have destroyed any version of Lewis. You'll recall, Lewis was twice one-punch KO'd/TKO'd. Vitali has never even been seriously hurt as a professional boxer, let alone off his feet.

    Lewis won the "Cut Lottery" against Vitali and was still getting his ass beat for 6 rounds. And he was clearly out of energy, even against a one-eyed man who couldn't see the punches coming at him. Lewis trailed in the fight 4-2 rounds and fell on his stool after the 6th and had nothing left. He would have been stopped within 3 rounds.

    And that was against a one-eyed Vitali who had blood streaming in his eye and who couldn't see the punches coming. Vitali destroys people, and Lewis would have been just another KO victim for the highest KO % fighter in the history of the HW division. China Chin Len never rematched Vitali, and there's a very good reason VK forced Len to retire.

    Len was good, but Vitali was a terminator. Only injury could stop him (he's 36-0 in fights he was not injured in {2 fights}), not Rahman or McCall. Vitali KO'd 35 of his 38 opponents, including the 2 fights stopped prematurely due to injury. He has never once trailed on the scorecards in any of his fights, and he has a 92% KO ratio.

    Lewis was good for what he was -- a glass-jawed giant -- but he's not close to Vitali's class. And Len was unbelievably fortunate when he won that "Cut Lottery," or else he would have 3 "KO'd/TKO'd by"s on his ledger.
     
  15. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Lewis didn't really ***** out of anything, if he did the first fight with Vitali wasn't going to happen anyway. The reality here is that Lewis just didn't have the motivation to continue nor prove anything, the man has done it all at that point and way more. I'm a supporter of the Klitschkos more than Lewis but such facts can't be ignored even though I did say the same exact thing you're saying now years ago when the rematch was still rumored and after the first fight out of frustration. Now that years passed it's clear why Lewis didn't want it, he was honest enough to admit that he barely made it through and had no desire at all, so who is he fooling for accepting something he doesn't have the heart for anymore and put his life/career/reputation on the line?