Great Performance By Wlad

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  1. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    Ridiculous.

    If you can't figure out why a man who is 35lbs lighter, 5 inches shorter and overrated doesn't belong in the same ring as the heavyweight champ you are lost to common sense.

    Nothing about Chambers was a risk for Wladimir. No power, little footwork, little head movement. This dude was about as threatening to Wladimir as Clottey was to Pacquiao.
     
  2. skier47

    skier47 Guest

    You arrogant, pompous, pendantic little twit. I saw nearly every one of the great Larry Holme's fights you little teeny bobber bubblegummer. Hell, I actively review and rewatch all the good historical fights while you undoubtedly waggle your spankie to the latest Lady Gaga videos. Leave the boxing analysis to the adults little one. Wlad's opponents over the years have been first rate. Top rated, undefeated Americans like Calvin Brock, undefeated powerpunchers from africa in Sam Peter, great European pros and standout amateur prodigy's like Chagaev and the list goes on. Holmes was great but his opposition over the years was somewhat pedestrian.
     
  3. Serenata

    Serenata Fit und geimpft Full Member

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    Chambers was No.1 contender and beat some very good opposition on the way to earning that status. Nothing wrong with that
     
  4. maverock

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    Chambers didn't win a single round and didn't connect with a single power punch. Is that "doing well" in your book?

    Chambers was completely outclassed by Wlad.
     
  5. maverock

    maverock Active Member Full Member

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    You should have said the BEFORE the fight, not afterwards. People were getting shot here on ESB for saying the above by the "Chambers will shock Wlad" crowd.
     
  6. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    Dubious ranking at work. Although I don't doubt that Chambers was the the third or fourth best option for a defense.

    It was a fight that had to be done of course. I just don't see what the point of calling it a 'great defense' was.
     
  7. Serenata

    Serenata Fit und geimpft Full Member

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    He beat 6′ 7″ No.1 contender Dimitrenko and before that Samuel Peter. Nothing dubious about the ranking.

    Who deserved a higher ranking?

    Haye? - Doesn´t want to fight either Klitschko
    Adamek? - totally unproven at HW
    Chagaev? - already got spanked by Wladimir
    Povetkin? - is next to get spanked
    Valuev? - finished
    Peter? - lost first fight and will loose the second also + finished by Vitali
    Thompson? - already got spanked by Wladimir
    Arreola? - finished by Vitali
    Gomez? - finished by Vitali
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  8. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    At 34 year old I've learned a few things, one of which is no matter how old someone is, how many big fights they've been to live, how much footage they've seen, how much they've read, they can get it wrong.

    Holmes sometimes laboured, true, he fought down to opponents on occasions, but prime Holmes would have looked like a god against Chambers, Wlad didn't.

    Holmes would NEVER have been ko'd by the likes of Purrity, Sanders or Brewster. On that alone he's better, going by your posts you don't think a guy who beat most top guys, went 48-0, with some good names thrown in as you well know, Norton, Shavers, Cooney etc, I won't patrionise you.

    The fact you bring Chagaev and Brock, guys who would get pasted by pretty much all the 90's and 70's top HW's says something, hell throw in Brewster, Peter and Byrd while you're at it.

    If I am arrogant, pompous and pendantic then you are someone of a skewed perspective. Holmes is holds a top 5 spot in all polls wether it's polls found in online boxing websites, boxing magazines or by Ring etc etc.

    Maybe it's you who needs to re-evaluate sir.:good
     
  9. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    I don't get your 'finished by Vitali' comments.

    Why not add a line for Chambers being finished by Povetkin?

    Losing happens. I don't discredit any chance of Gomez, Arreola, Valuev against Wladimir just because they lost to Vitali and Haye.

    In fact, I'm quite sure all of those fights would be better to watch than Chambers-Klitschko. Part of this is about pleasing the fans too.
     
  10. Serenata

    Serenata Fit und geimpft Full Member

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    So you think Holmes is much better than Lewis because whe would never have lost to the likes of Rahman or McCall? Just curious.
     
  11. Serenata

    Serenata Fit und geimpft Full Member

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    The finished by Vitali line mean two things:

    1. In 2010 I personally think that Wladimir is slightly better than Vitali (personal oppinion) and Vitali made them look really bad.

    2. Look at what happened to most of the promising HW fighters after they lost to either Klitschko. Namy of them never got back to their old self.


    Chambers was hardly finished by Povetkin. I even had him on the winning streak till he gassed in the later rounds. He connected so many punches to the amateurish Povetkin (at least at that time amateurish)
     
  12. skier47

    skier47 Guest

    Great victory over Shavers, but Norton was a jello-jawed dude who got blasted out by every big puncher he faced; Wlad would have iced him just like Foreman did but in more tactical fashion. Cooney was woefully under-prepared for his fight with Holmes. Victor Vallee was a joke of a trainer who let Cooney's prime years go to waste. Even, Holmes after their fight openly admitted that if he had been so badly prepared to fight a championship fight he would never have made it to the thirteenth round. Holmes then went on to beat up a 38 year old, parkinson addled Ali and fought a bunch of embarrassing no-hopers in Scott Ledoux, Reynoldo Snipes who nearly KOed Holmes and Scott Peter. Not a particularly impressive body of work, although in terms of toughness and raw talent I favor Holmes over both klits. He would take them deep in a back and forth momentous battle and eventually drown them.
     
  13. ko_bros

    ko_bros Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :deal
    I'm a big fan of Wlad but he had a lot better performances that this fight. I was really dissapointed that he could KO Chambers. But he did it anyways. Good finish to a regular fight.
     
  14. ko_bros

    ko_bros Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This is also true. People forget about that. Wlad's last fight was over 8 months ago because of the injury. Its not that easy to look good after that long of a layoff plus after an injury.
    Nobody even mentioned that prior to the fight and after the fight.
     
  15. ko_bros

    ko_bros Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This is why we, Klitschko fans, get so much hate, and the Klitschkos themselves. Thats pretty delusional:patsch