Great sneaky punchers (Great, great, great....great, great Walcott highlights vid)

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Check out this amazing video of Walcott:

    http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/jersey+joe+walcott/video/x6t5v8_jersey-joe-walcott_sport

    What strikes me about Walcott is what a sneaky puncher. Guys who throw a jab from the waist tend to stick it out there, arm punch, but he could get a jab from the waist that really had something on it. He could throw a right hand from a crouched position only leaning into it at the last minute. Regardless of the distance, almost no sell on the punch. Brilliant stuff. He was a sneaky, sneaky punch. The one punch KO against Charles is made up and came from nowhere. It didn't happen in fact, it was a dive. Not really.

    Anyway, enjoy the video, you've seen lots of the footage but it is worth your while. After you've done that, name me some other sneaky, sneaky punchers, and are they comparable to Walcott? He's magic.
     
  2. Minotauro

    Minotauro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I love the way he moves in the opening part of him sparring around 7 second in its like he's floating.

    Archie Moore could be a sneaky puncher.
     
  3. McGrain

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    I just watched it again. Walcott makes Louis look like a dummy. Well, except when Louis cornered him on the ropes and punched him! I been underestimating Walcott I think. What a great boxer.

    Moore, yeah, the definitive choice probably, maybe even better than Walcott in this regard?
     
  4. TBooze

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    Moore easily; he has at least a 120 odd victims to prove this.
     
  5. Rebel-INS

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    The way he doubled back on himself was astonishing.
     
  6. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's a treat to watch Walcott. Great jab, stiff and accurate, but more than anything else I love his defense while staying in the pocket. His movement is also lovely. He had a tendency towards sloppines it seems, though.
     
  7. Mendoza

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    Wlacott could feint with any part of his body.
     
  8. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    It's true. That sort of thing is lost to us now.
     
  9. Minotauro

    Minotauro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeh you never see that anymore I remember Moore saying Burley could feint with any part of body as well even his eyes or something crazy like that.

    Hopkins is a sneaky puncher today he throw his right hand when a lot aren't expecting it.
     
  10. McGrain

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    I agree with Hopkins. I'd also add Calzaghe. He doesn't get set to punch and he is off balance (in traditional terms) anyway so he can fire in punches from all kinds of strange unexpected angles.
     
  11. Bokaj

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    Louis didn't seem very good at cutting the ring off on Walcott. May be a reason as to why he often had some trouble with movers.
     
  12. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah, his feints are beautiful to watch.
     
  13. Bigcat

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    Oliver McCall and Georgie Benton, look at Olivers KO's, his stoppage of Akinwande especially , he set the whole thing up systamatically and hid the final punch behind a jab.. Larry Holmes was a sneaky puncher too , he would slip a heavy handed shot in without showing it , its like a fighters way of telling lies, the art of disguise and feinting is a thing we don't see much any more.......
     
  14. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good call on Holmes, although he was far more effective at it up thru around 82 or so with it. Afterwards it was something that was missing from his game and would've served well in those Bey/Frank/Smith/Williams efforts. Those guys were prime targets and vulnerable to that kind of attack but it was part of an older guys deterioration & just not there anymore.

    Alexis Arguello was another master with a sneaky punch and would patiently set things up. Sometimes it appeared too much so. But whenever he did fire off that right hand lazer beam, it was usually the end of things. The opponents of Alexis sure knew he had that missile though and Arguello had to have that great discipline to wait for that window of opportunity. Sometimes it'd be early and he'd just devastate a guy, but it was always fun watching a master waiting for that missile to get launched.
     
  15. groove

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    louis looks very slow. walcott looks pretty good (fast hands) but he's open for a quick good right hand especially if you take a step right simultaneously.