Great start for our own golden boys

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Stevie Adams Jr, Oct 7, 2013.


  1. BUSTER

    BUSTER Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Luke turned 26 last week....boxing is as much a business as it is a sport if it makes money it makes sence regards to the coyle campbell but theyd only be one winner there
     
  2. KidFrankie

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    Anthony joshua nearly knocked out ian jon lewis
     
  3. Stevie Adams Jr

    Stevie Adams Jr Member Full Member

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    The initial post was for sensible and genuine boxing fans. Anthony Joshua and Luke Campbell are both Olympic gold medalists, from the same games and fighting on the same shows. If you can't appreciate how exciting that is, I feel very sorry for you.
     
  4. shenmue

    shenmue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hard to be that impressed so far, not their fault but they have only had 3 fights between them vs **** poor opponents. Its too early to get excited and too early to guess how they will get on vs live opponents.

    Its almost like you are shocked and impressed that they have beat 3 bums, and need to applaud them on their amazing achievements.

    (I have spoken to Joshua in private and he has told me he doesn't consider himself a true Gold Medalist as he lost the first round and possibly the final, he says its a nice marketing tool though, especially for casuals who don't follow Boxing as much as true fans)
     
  5. Jim Bowen

    Jim Bowen MARVELOUS Full Member

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    Khans done very well all things considered, won a couple of world titles and in the running (wrongly imo but hey) for a fight with one of the best of the last 20 years. We may slate him, because he acts like a knob and says stupid stuff, but he's achieved well and a I think Campbell would do well to have a similar career. Obviously I hope he eclipses Khan, but if he doesn't and achieves to Khan's level I don't see how that could be viewed as a failure.
     
  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I'm no fan of Khan's but you can't say he underachieved. He more or less delivered on the promise shown while at domestic level. In fact, given that many were already dismissing him and predicting he wouldn't even make it to a world title due his chin, which everybody knew about back to his amateur days, he probably comes out with a positive balance.
     
  7. shenmue

    shenmue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yep Khan has beaten Kotelnik,Paulie,Judah and Maidana, probably beat PEDerson as well. He has had a good career and better than most pros.
     
  8. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Extremely underrated win, forgotten about in recent times. Khan's best W at the time (shambolic TD over the paper-skinned shell of MAB notwithstanding) and still among his very best, maybe third.

    That same Kotelnik had just legitimately beaten Maidana (some claimed robbery when it happened, but those were the sort who favor "blind aggression" over clean work) and following a thirteen month layoff after the Khan loss would school unbeaten Devon Alexander only to get robbed. SOLID competitor, great name on the resume.

    Another excellent victory. Khan actually deserves a lot more credit for breaking down and stopping Malignaggi than Hatton does (although Cotto still dished out the worst beating, to a prime Malignaggi). Malignaggi under Hatton was in the middle of being nearly ruined by the disastrous relationship with trainer Buddy McGirt, who completely butchered his style and made him into something he isn't. On this night there was no such excuse - Khan simply beat him at his own game: speed, voluminous flurries, and hyper-kinetic gliding about.

    In light of what Malignaggi has gone on to accomplish, this is a fine-win victory, getting better with age.

    Another one. He completely raped Judah mentally and essentially, IMO, forced him to quit. The final body shot (not a low blow) was the icing on the cake and the last straw for a physically and psychologically defeated Judah...faded but a reigning titlist and not without some fire left in him, as he went on to bump off an unbeaten prospect and then give a solid champ in Garcia a tough battle.

    Gutsy showing and he scraped it out admirably navigating through rocky waters late. Maidana himself is quite a bit less skilled than a Kotelnik, Judah, or Malignaggi (though some have in the past underrated him in writing him off for a caveman, which he isn't) but with Khan's specific weakness being punch resistance he posed more threat, except maybe than Judah, and had more threatening opportunities - and Khan showed plenty of heart and resolve to finish the job here, especially surviving that epic tenth, putting this right up there with the aforementioned three.

    I actually did have it to Peterson, 113-112...but the last point deduction at the very least was madness. Without that it would have been a draw on my card...and then of course there are the allegations of PED use. Who knows. Anyway, you can't do anything but credit Amir for this one regardless of the result. Earning what ought to have been a draw (or narrow points victory) with fair officiating against prime and possibly juiced Peterson is certainly no black mark.

    :nod

    He deserves a lot of respect for all he managed to do with his set of attributes, good and bad...but still remains unlikeable with all the **** he chats...not least of which being the "I've got the best chin in boxing! :bart" comment and the like. Hell, even in his domestic media feud with Brook, who comes off an out-and-out tit, he seems the bigger heel.
     
  9. murphman22

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    Honestly pal don't worry about me I am fine. Each to their own but I am really not concerned with watching guys fighting blokes who are literally 5 leagues apart on the top or near the top of any bill. Don't have a problem with guys learning their trade but it is tantamount to a con with these guys fighting on their own shows. Imagine what that bill would have been like if the Haye-Fury fight would have gone ahead.

    It is two years till these guys will have a meaningful fight. They should be coming on 4th from the main event.
     
  10. shenmue

    shenmue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah most people forget about the Kotelnik win but its a great win, i know danger wise Kotelnik offered little chance of stopping him but he still impressed winning most rounds. I thought it would be close.

    Maidana is his best win IMO because he offered the most danger style wise and obviously power wise. I believe Ariza got him in top shape (not been the same since he left him IMO) and ref Cortez helped slightly. 2013 Khan gets stopped vs 3013 Maidana at 147.

    Yeah i had no problems with Kotelnik getting the nod over Maidana (a lot of people do and think maidana won) but it was super close and in Argentina or even maybe America i believe Maidana would have got the victory. Watched it again a few weeks back, really good fight which gets forgotten and Kotelnik took some huge shots, face was black and blue after the final bell.
     
  11. shenmue

    shenmue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :deal spot on, these fights shouldn't be part of the televised cards until they fight decent opponents. Nothing worse than knowing these fights will be over in a round or 2, proving nothing in the process.
     
  12. Josephd86

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    You do know upwards of 6 million people watched them win Gold Medals? These have appealed to the non boxing fan.
     
  13. Josephd86

    Josephd86 Active Member Full Member

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    So are you not enjoying the rise of Callum Smith? Watching the journey is part of it. Like it or not Joshua is one of British boxing popular people.
     
  14. shenmue

    shenmue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm not enjoying it that much , his last win was his only impressive win beating a durable opponent. Hope he steps it up soon as he is clearly and i mean clearly better than the opponents so far he is fighting.
     
  15. murphman22

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    And I also know that they were fighting world class operators (albeit at an amateur level). Fighting journeyman is all part of the professional journey. Understand that Joshua and Campbell won't be topping the bill again but they should just be additions to cards rather than being a prominent part of them. Eddie has paid his money though and wants an instant return.