Great Use of the Jab

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by GPater11093, Mar 5, 2011.


  1. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Even though I've seen this before, I'm just stunned at how good Harada looks here...and he performing against another all time great in jofre, which makes it all the more significant. harada wasn't just a busy swarmer...he was the eleite of swarmers...with skills..a fine jab and ring intelligence.:thumbsup
     
  2. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    RDJ Boxing Junkie banned

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    The rest of your post explains that this isn't true. Being able to throw the jab as a counter makes the jab better. It's the same as throwing a perfect jab on a heavy bag but being unable to land it on a moving target. I'd rather have a less perfect one that I could actually use. The one that gets the work done is better, despite the form. Goloto simply had a more efficient jab.

    Not disagreeing with anything else really just semantics. Good thread, Golota is quite skilled.
     
  4. Jorodz

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    well put, he is underrated in the grand scheme both for his skills and two clear victories over an all time great
     
  5. El Bujia

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    The rematch was anything but clear cut, in my opinion. I actually had Jofre just edging it, I believe.
     
  6. Jorodz

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    i'm ashamed to say i've never watched it :patsch
     
  7. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    He looked fantastic to me Jarodz...maybe it's been a long time since I've seen this fight,and maybe there are good excuses regarding Jofre's performance,but Harada sure performed at an amazing level of skill against an alltime great like Jofre...using the jab to perfection toset up that buzzsaw attack of his...he looked so balanced..
     
  8. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yeah,the rematch was very close..but what a fighter Harada was..both times really.
     
  9. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    I'd say throughout his career Bowe had the better jab, generally. But I aint seen a lot of either guy to be honest. I just presumed Bowe was regarded being the better jabber, as I often see him mentioned as having a great jab, but I aint seen Golota mentioned.

    I had it wider for Harada, I felt he won it more comfortably. He just didn't have any big rounds like the first fight.

    I thought it wasn't that good of fight with both men having declined a bit.
     
  10. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I disagree wholeheartedly, Greg, although that seems to be the notion according to many. I thought neither men had notably declined, although Harada didn't look as sharp to me. I'll chalk that up to the night. By contrast, I thought Jofre performed very well, and was perhaps a shade sharper than in the first fight. More battle-ready he seemed. That said, I haven't seen it in a good while so my memory could be playing tricks. I'll have to watch it again sometime soon.
     
  11. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Yeh, me and you have always gone back and forth on this. When you give it a watch, I'll watch it as soon as I can around the same time and we can contrast opinions with it fresh in our minds, as we have gone back and forth on this for a good while.
     
  12. Nicky P

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    Carlos Ortiz put on a jabbing clinic against Joe Brown. Barely even threw his right in that one.
     
  13. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Nicky, I have heard that said before. I really need to check it out.
     
  14. Nicky P

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    Yeah G, i kept thinking to myself, alright now he's gonna throw that right.

    lol, and you wont even need all 10 fingers to count how many rights he threw in that fight. that's how it seemed at least. But one of the best jabbing displays i've ever seen, no doubt.
     
  15. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    I remember Teeto saying that ortiz brought his right glove up in front of his face as he jabbed to take away Browns jab. Sounds a great display.

    Brown was a decent fighter, I like watching him.