Greater at Heavy, Povetkin or Vitali?

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Povetkin or Vitali

  1. Povetkin

  2. Even/no opinion/either way

  3. Vitali

  1. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne’s life coach. Full Member

    Aug 18, 2019
    Close but Vitali. If it were a fight the cards would read 116-112
  2. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

    Jul 21, 2012
    One of Vitali biggest strengths was his size and the fact he was matched up with plodders with no athletic ability.
    Povetkin has a showed a much higher skill level than Vitali , both in technique of punching and ring IQ. His shot selection is better , his range of punches is more varied and he is miles better in close.
  3. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Jul 14, 2007
    Against who though? He lost to the far inferior brother with an all-time glass chin.
  4. The Underdog

    The Underdog Member banned Full Member

    Aug 6, 2020
    Povetkin. Vitalis resume is just too thin.
  5. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 Full Member

    Nov 22, 2014
    Vitali was hurt against Sanders.
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  6. Somali Sanil

    Somali Sanil Wild Buffalo Man Full Member

    Sep 1, 2019
    Both at their best i think Vitali picks him apart cautiously then lays it on him later in the fight. I cant see Vitali taking him lightly, he'd be focused and i think the range difference and height show massively with Vitali sitting back and possibly putting on a masterclass. Hes not getting sloppy and his chin even if he does is taking Pov's left hook. The more i think about it, i think Vitali beats the life out of him after 8
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  7. Somali Sanil

    Somali Sanil Wild Buffalo Man Full Member

    Sep 1, 2019
    Thats a serious ko sniper that hurt him though, and a southpaw with range and height to land, Povs best shots are hooks, far less likely to land imo
  8. Somali Sanil

    Somali Sanil Wild Buffalo Man Full Member

    Sep 1, 2019
    Vitali barely loses a round in this match up
  9. chatty

    chatty Boxing Addict Full Member

    Aug 18, 2009
    Vitali but not by a huge amount.

    Need to factor in some things.

    Both Vitalis losses were by injury.

    Povetkin shouldhave loses to Huck and Hunter as well.

    But also Vitali had a size advantage over most his opponents and Povetkin is at a size disadvantage in most of his fights.

    Vitalis resume is pretty poor, he was a better fighter than his rcord shows but what a poor era he fought in.
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  10. Ted Stickles

    Ted Stickles Boxing Addict Full Member

    Jun 24, 2007
    Povetkin has the better resume but head to head Vitali would have beaten him.
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  11. vast

    vast Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Nov 27, 2010
    Vitali at this point.
    Now if Povetkin pulls off a couple more victories against top level comp it would tighten
  12. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Jul 4, 2014
    I had him beating Huck. Didn't watch Hunter. Perhaps the post should read: "many people felt that he lost to Huck and Hunter."

    As for the losses being to injuries, injuries of one extent or another happen in almost every match. They are not really an excuse.
  13. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

    Jul 26, 2004
    The manner of wins matter to me.

    So while Povetkin might have an edge on paper, that Vitali dominated his opposition, and Povetkin often labored or was in close affairs with similar level competition, is the difference maker to me.

    Vitalis overall dominance, him being heavily favored to beat Povetkin head to head, and him rating higher head to head in general against the other historic heavyweights, has him rating higher all time, to me.

    But its closer than I would have thought.
  14. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

    Oct 22, 2015
    Those "top guys" povetkin beat all were exposed as average contenders evetnually though. Being at the top of a trash heap doesn't mean you beat top talent
  15. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

    Jul 7, 2018
    How is it possible that Vitaly's division was the worst ever if a bunch of 40 year olds from that division are still at the top and knocking out top fighters?
    Povetkin, Helenius, Pulev are still competitive. Ortiz is 50 years old and ranked very high.
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