Greater/Better fighter: Victor Galindez or Dwight Muhammad Qawi

Flash24 · Apr 6, 2025

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As much as I admire and respect Victor Emilio and love watching him fight, the series of close (even controversial) decision wins is underscored by the fact that he refused to get into the ring on fight day for a rematch with Mike Rossman because the WBA didn’t get to appoint all the officials (as opposed to the Nevada athletic commission, which had legal and proprietary oversight) … and did so knowing full well that the WBA would make Rossman fight him again on Victor’s/WBA’s terms even though he did not fulfill his contractual obligations as challenger.

It’s one of the most shameful acts of a top fighter I’ve ever seen. He literally refused to walk to the ring, leaving the champion out there not knowing Victor had decided to walk away and fight another way because the CHALLENGER didn’t like the fact that the commission rather than his protective buddies choose the officials — clearly afraid to have his fight officiated by an impartial ref and neutral judges (Rossman was from New Jersey and had no cozy relationship with Nevada officials).

That tells me there’s some complicity among the WBA and Victor and Galindez’s management, and it stinks to high heaven. Stanley Christodoulou and Waldemar Schmidt might as well have worn Galindez corner jackets they were part of officiating his bouts to often.

Then when Rossman retired on his stool after shattering his right hand in the rematch, Victor tried to charge him in the ring (the fight is over) and had to be restrained, then jubilantly declared that he would never fight Rossman again and there would be no rubber match. (Wonder how he knew the WBA wouldn’t make Rossman a mandatory and order one?)

It certainly makes me curious about those close decisions, in many of which Galindez put forth a minimalist effort in many rounds probably with full knowledge that all he had to do was stay on his feet and not get completely outclassed and he would retain. He was, in effect, a WBA house fighter and the challenger would have to overcome not only Victor but the judges and referee to have a chance.

No two ways about it, to me that impacts his legacy and my estimation of him. If you have to have your daddy as ref and your two brothers and a cousin judging to think you can win, you ain’t all that.

That aside, I’d break down the thread topic this way:

1) I’d rate Victor’s legacy at 175 higher than Qawi’s. BUT …

2) Overall, I’d rate Qawi’s legacy across his entire career above Victor’s. If I had to choose between them on a Hall of Fame ballot, Qawi would be the pick without too much thought.

3) H2H at 175, I think Dwight would torture Galindez (Qawi had one hell of a vicious mean streak and delighted in tormenting his prey like he was playing with his food) and run away with a win over 15 rounds. Too good defensively, too sharp a puncher — and given how Victor Emilio liked to lay on the ropes, Qawi puts him through a meat grinder.

4) H2H at cruiser, Qawi stops him. Probably in five rounds or less. Victor’s one fight at cruiser established that he had no future there.
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Some great information Saint that I didn't know about Galindez
and his connections with the WBA. I just verified through
research. Thanks Brother.
Though I did know the WBA has been accused of favoring Latin fighters in
the 70's through the 90's.
I didn't know about Galindez specifically.

clum · Apr 6, 2025

Saintpat said: ↑

(at least two or three times Serrano, a Puerto Rican, had all-PR officiating crews … but all-American isn’t allowed?)
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I don't think it's right that Serrano got four Puerto Rican officials for his fights either. I'm certainly not about to vouch for the fairness and even-handedness of the WBA. That doesn't mean that it's okay when an American commission tries to pull the same kind of thing.

Saintpat · Apr 6, 2025

clum said: ↑

I don't think it's right that Serrano got four Puerto Rican officials for his fights either. I'm certainly not about to vouch for the fairness and even-handedness of the WBA. That doesn't mean that it's okay when an American commission tries to pull the same kind of thing.
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I think you’re way hung up on nationality = bias as if the WBA bagmen put Stanley Christodoulou and Waldimir Schmidt in, they’re neutral.

Galindez fought in Las Vegas as champion with all Vegas (American) officials. It was supposed to be a title fight then the WBA pulled sanction because the opponent wasn’t ranked (which means someone’s payment didn’t come through, given who they did rank). He didn’t have a problem with it then. He also fought in Italy with Italian officials.

Galindez was the beneficiary of more corrupt WBA stuff than maybe any other fighter in history. If he had to suffer as the challenger to have officials who weren’t Latinos picked by his WBA cabal, well tough cookies. Every challenger who faced him had it stacked against them.

A Venezuelan appointed by the WBA over a Galindez title fight is in no way more neutral than a Las Vegas judge.

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