Greater/Better: Hamed or Tszyu?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Xplosive, Aug 16, 2019.


  1. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    24,340
    9,954
    Jun 23, 2008
  2. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

    27,131
    44,903
    Mar 3, 2019
    Tszyu is greater but Hamed was more exciting
     
  3. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

    5,121
    6,951
    Sep 8, 2013
    That is a tough call. Both are on a similar level in my mind. I hate to say it, but, gun to my head I think I might have to say Hamed. In spite of his moronic personality and childish antics, he did dominate his division for several years and beat some very good fighters (Kevin Kelley, Wilfredo Vazquez, Wayne McCullough, Boom Boom Johnson). His decision loss to a great fighter like Barrera is a lot easier to explain than Kostya getting completely dismantled by Cool Vince Phillips. As embarrassing as Hamed was out of the ring, he was never truly embarrassed inside the ring. (And that includes the Barrera fight, which was a lot closer than people seem to remember)
     
  4. ChrisJS

    ChrisJS Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,238
    7,118
    Sep 11, 2018
    Tszyu via landslide. Better skills, comparable power, better resume and far better longevity.
     
    young griffo likes this.
  5. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,063
    11,263
    Aug 16, 2018
    The Prince was more athletically gifted but Koysta was by far the better fighter.
     
  6. emallini

    emallini Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

    11,274
    2,538
    Mar 16, 2008
    I will go for Naz
     
  7. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    11,739
    4,477
    Jul 14, 2009
    Neither one was a great fighter
     
  8. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

    36,654
    16,562
    May 4, 2017
    Hamed had far more flaws.
     
  9. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,496
    7,262
    May 18, 2006
    Tszyu was better. Better longevity, beat better fighters, better signature win etc

    Someone mentioned the Vince Phillips fight (which had some mitigating circumstances concerning outside the ring legal distractions for Kostya) but Tszyu at least showed an ability to come back from this set back and re-establish himself as the best fighter in the division.

    Hamed got beaten (and the Barrera fight wasn’t close at all, Hamed was exposed completely) and bitched out of the sport. He didn’t have the heart to mix it with the MAB’s, Morales or Pac-Mans anymore because he knew they’d trash him as well.
     
  10. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    20,234
    6,499
    Jan 22, 2009
    Both overrated in my opinion, but Hamed WAY more so I go with Kostya
     
  11. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    24,340
    9,954
    Jun 23, 2008
    To answer the question I posed... I think Tszyu was greater, but prime-for-prime, I think the 95-97 Hamed was better than prime Tszyu.