Greater Fighter: Calzaghe or GGG?

Sweet Pea Punched correctly Slappy Joe slapped with the inside of the glove which incidently is a FOUL BLOW !! According to the M of Q rules
Dont you know anything ??? lol

 

Who cares if he fought those guys?

Most of those guys WEREN'T MW's.


Here's 2 FACTUAL pieces of information for you:

1. Cotto had THREE fights at MW, all of which were C-W fights.

2. He fought Geale INSTEAD of a fellow MW champ who was ALSO his MANDATORY.


Why do you keep embarrassing yourself??

We have PROOF that Cotto wouldn't fight him.

He DIDN'T.

He beat Martinez, beat Geale, then DUCKED GG to fight Canelo.


You can write whatever fantasy BS you want.

The FACT is: He would not and did not fight GG.

 

You're hopeless.

You've been telling me for 2 days now, that the WBA, MW champ, who was also his MANDATORY, didn't deserve a fight with Cotto.

Yet a guy who GG had ALREADY BEATEN, did.

So in your world, it was fine for him to fight Geale, but not the guy who'd beaten him.

Like I said yesterday, I'm debating with a genius.

 

Didn't Joe C suffer an injury early in his career that caused him to change his punching technique?

I'm sure there is a someone on this forum who will be able to tell us all about it.

 

Well, that depends who you ask. I've heard it told both ways - early in his career Joe was generally regarded as being VERY heavy handed and threw much harder shots - but still at his insane volume, so over time that led to damage to his hands (had to pull out of a few fights due to hand injuries).

Some folks would say that Joe's punching technique (Calslappy) was what caused his injuries in the first place, but I don't see that - he adapted his technique to work around his brittle hands. You just need to watch some of his earlier fights - Eubank Snr, Richie Woddhall to see that his punches back then were quite different to his later 'pitty-pats'. I do laugh and remember Roy Jone saying after their fight, "man those pitty-pats are still pretty hard" or words to that effect.

 

To put it simply............ Calzaghe

 

When I saw the thread topic I instantly envisioned Calzaghe moving in and out and peppering the slower GGG. I’d go with Calzaghe by decision.

 

Much as I hate Slappy he beats GGG and it would be as easy as he beat Lacey

 

Yeah, his hands suffered a lot in his early days. It eventually happens to all punchers if they're not careful, but apparently it happened to Calzaghe early. His workrate combined with a good punch really ruined his hands. Especially when you consider that he'd have trained with the same intensity. As already pointed out, he wasn't always a slapster. He threw real, damaging punches vs Eubank (his best performance IMO, even though he doesn't rate it as such) and Eubank said he was hurt by that first KD and that Calzaghe's punch was for real. I also remember Jones saying that his 'slaps' were pretty mean. Calzaghe was one of those fighter's who's fundamentals weren't great, but was still incredibly skilled and intelligent in other aspects.

 

Good post.

I'd call Calzahge unorthodox. He clearly had physical gifts and a good ring IQ but yeah, he had his own way of doing things.

 

Chris covers a lot of great stuff in this OP. Well worth the read.
https://www.boxingforum24.com/threa...tional-virtuosity-of-signore-calzaghe.567181/

 

Imagine what he could of done without those hand injuries.

The fact that he could evolve his game to compensate for his brittle hands is pretty remarkable.

 

Yes he said he had BUT rules are rules. The MofQ rules state " To be legal a punch must be delivered by the knuckle part of the glove. Slapping used to be called lacing & was deemed a foul blow then.
Its sad if a fighter does suffer a hand injury & cannot punch correctly but foul blows should not be counted.
Floyd claimed damaged hands but he was supposedly allowed xylocaine shots to deaden the pain. This was classed as illegal too but he never got called on it

 

This was one of the main reasons Joe never left the British shores until the latter part of his career. He never was sure he wouldnt be pulled on it if he did

 

So with your comment on what you think was Calzaghes best win. Tell me what you think was GGGs... This will be good