Greater fighter: Canelo Alvarez or Juan Francisco Estrada

By sheer numbers 135 to 140 are the largest divisions with 140 being slightly larger last time I checked. A lot of grown men in European countries do weigh 180 pounds. But they don't do so naturally. They are fat and older than boxers. A 25 year old man in boxing shape tends to weigh maybe 147-154 pounds in European nations and 130-140 in Asian and Latin American nations.

*I mean after weight cuts, so add 10 pounds or so.

 

Estrada is obviously and clearly the better and greater fighter. His resume craps on Canelo's. But most fans and most media do not care about weight classes below 126. And only hardcore fans care about anything below 140 or 147. So Canelo will incorrectly always be rated higher.

 

This guy is clearly a hater.

 

Canelo should be ranked higher, based on ALL his achievements, not just his last fight.

 

Estrada the better boxer but Canelo is the greater fighter. Achieved more and been considered the No.1 fighter pound for pound on the planet for a few years

 

Lmfao if that's the case why isn't he rated that high? Ffs he was never even close to be p4p #1 even Gonzalez got there. I will bet you aby amount of money you want to put up that at the end of their careers canelo will be rated as greater than Estrada Estrada is barely worth mentioning in the grand scheme of things because the talent pool down there isn't deep.

 

Gonzalez and Rungivsai are better than a declined GGG. Facts.

 

Chocolitito arguably won the second fight, hes got wins over Segura, Tyson Marquez and Viloria, but Segura's claim to fame was 2 wins over tiny Calderon, Tyson Marquez never accomplished anything, and Viloria was losing to guys like omar nino. Hell even his win over Cuadras was highly controversial in the first fight, but those names and sor rungvisai are the meat and potatoes of his resume, and when compared to Canelos resume really isnt that impressive. And im a big fan of Estrada.

 

Based on what? The guys are the size of 12 year old boys. You don't have a deep pool of fighters to compare them to. Unless there's someone like donaire who moved up to as high as 126 then I don't want to hear that. Guys at those weights get rated accordingly because not many grown men are that size and this is coming from a finito Lopez and ivan Calderon fan. I can appreciate the lower weights but don't sit up here and try to say being a dominant fighter from 108-115 is the same as being one at from 147-175 because it's not.

 

Skills.

 

Clown.

 

If the only argument you've got as to why GGG is better is "those guys are small", then you've already conceded how poor your argument is.

 

My argument is great. I already said the pool of fighters is not as deep as it is at the other higher weights which is true and can't be refuted, yet you and others dismiss this fact which backs up my entire argument about canelo > Estrada thus proving me right.