Greater Fighter: Floyd Mayweather or Juan Manuel Marquez?

I freaked when I saw it. It's definitely a keeper.:good

I made note of his lack of signature wins when comparing him to Morales and Barrera, two fighters who he is routinely rated above these days. As for Floyd, he isn't really in possession of a top shelf victory either, but he's spanned more weight divisions, is clearly a more complete fighter, and has a comparable resume with Marquez. When the resumes are fairly close, you look at other criteria to distinguish who is the greater fighter, in my opinion.

Goes without saying, but what posters shouldn't be saying is stuff like this...

Not..."he beat Pacquiao both times in my opinion", simply, "he beat Pac twice", as if it was a irrefutable fact. He then goes on to imply a robbery ensued by saying, "poor officiating". Those decisions could have conceivably been scored for either fighter on both occasions and therefore aren't robberies by definition. It's one thing to have an opinion, but to call these fights robberies just isn't true. That's not what happened.

Floyd is a special talent, he just hasn't done himself any justice with his career choices.

 

I don't have work today, and I've been busting my ass trying to recover all of my music. I had to erase my hard drive and reinstall my operating system so I lost absolutely everything. Didn't see any rush to go asleep when I didn't have anything to do all day...I'll get some shuteye in a bit.

You going DeGale/Groves?

 

You might have a point there. These days watching someones career or any particular fight is easy to do, also interviews, pundits and most importantly the general publics views are all readily available. Fighters of the past however its an entirely different story. Footage was not as widely available. For all we know there could have been many flaws in some of the greatest fighters of years gone by or even opponent choice due to circumstances that we may never know because the fans never had a platform like the internet to discuss and record this stuff. Theres only so much we can get from old grainy video footage and as for what we read in books we are always gonna get the opinion of the respective author (hell, just look at the bias involved with some of todays writers)

I'd be willing to bet my bottom dollar that all the top guys from yesteryear would struggle to live up to the reputation we have created for them in our heads. Never meet your heroes and all that.....

 

Erik Morales' resume is so much better than JMM's, though. Manny Pacquiao? Marco Antonio Barrera? Prime versions. It's an astonishing set of wins.

It's a shame you're not going to DeGale/Groves mate, would have been cool to meet up or something.

 

the only thing jmm has over mayweathers is he has proven himself in a hard fight. but pbf has still achieved more and is a notch above in tchnical ability

 

Did Mayweather not prove himself in the first Jose Luis Castillo fight? :think

 

The De La Hoya fight also was a tough fight for Mayweather IMO.

 

IMO I really think he came through some real tough spells in the De La Hoya fight, maybe Oscar gassing at the end helped a little but it certainly wasn't plain sailing for Floyd.

 

I never said it was one of Floyd's best performances, I made the point that it was a tough fight which he came through.