An eye for an eye, eh? Well obviously Pacman (shhhhh... I think Joe's fans haven't bumped into this thread yet )
I still believe he'll fight Pavlik after this, provided both win. Too much money and prestige left on the table in that fight to just retire, and it seems like both parties would just drop the matter rather than continue bantering if it was truly dead in the water. I'd like to see him fight Dawson, but I'm not sure the cash is there to pay for that matchup yet. And, to answer the original question, it's Pac.
As you say any fighters ledger can be scrutinised, when theres a will (bias, dislike) theres a way. Joe doesn't have a legendary resume or anything but he has consistently beaten quality fighters and strung together an impressive record. He is one of the greatest modern day british fighters and once the US hype/hate bull**** wears off he will be remembered more fondly. Not the greatest ever or anything but a very solid record. People underestimate how hard it is to maintain that level of consistency. A resume isn't just your best performances, its your worst as well and people typically forget that. Pac's resume and legacy is clearly superior due to the quality of fighters he has beaten, hence why he is the p4p no.1. However this thread is just made to discredit Calzaghe, when it is pretty obvious he has had an impressive career. Like all fighters, he has his idiot nuthuggers who think he is the greatest thing since sliced bread, and his moronic haters (you) who show no objectivity in analysing his career.
Apart from the "impressive record" remark, solid post And note that I don't like him one bit. PS: I don't think this thread was made just to discredit the Welshman.
The sky is the limit for one of them. Whch one? Do we know Pac's limit? In other words - has he lost? Do we know Joe's limit? In other words - has he lost?
But ask yourself this. Compare each others competition in fights. Who has fought the greater fighters? Who has fought more future Hall of Famers and won? Losing is not a big deal in boxing depending on HOW you lose and to who.
O shut up you idiot. If you want to put Joe on a pedestal thats your business. The facts remain that despite his consistent record and talent by ANY ATG standard he`s extremely ordinary. History WILL NOT be kind to him when you take into consideration he`s myriad of WBO defences. Prior to him beating Jeff Lacy you probably had never heard of him. But Joe was making easy money with easy defences in Wales. Just because he`s beaten an old Hopkins in a very spurious decision doesnt make him a lock for any sort of historical remembrance. And the facts remain WHO did Joe ever beat? We all know a prime Eubanks Hopkins RJJ stand him on his head. Other than that who else does he have to write home about? A bunch of decent contenders? Give me a break.