Gatti was NEVER knocking on the door of anyone with any boxing brains p4p lists.... give me a break phenom. :nono :good Ya he was on a great comeback trail... FOR HIM. Im not saying the gatti win wasnt good... it was... but he wasnt even APPROACHING p4p lists on his comeback lol... come on now, thats a HUGELY misleading statement for fans newer to the sport, gatti beat a fading JJL (decent win, but one that needs to be viewed with perspective), a smaller dorin coming off perhaps the longest layoff of his career (good win, but with perspective), and branco.... he was not in anybody with any boxing senses top 20 p4p... let alone approaching top 10 As for the comparison, im actually suprised people are picking pac.... when i read the title, i thought..... Mayweather easy, but looking back on it, it is indeed a pretty close race, closer then i would have thought actually, but i still have to give it to mayweather at THIS point in time.
mayweather at this point. close enough but pbf has more names. Doesnt help that pac fought mostly in asia with lesser known fighters before his big break.
Very close.. Just about even if you ask me, but Pac will pass him.. He has a lot of options to help him do it too.. He has the chance to beat guys like DLH and Hatton, as well as JMM in a second rematch.. And theres always unifying at 135..
:good Yep it's not even close Mayrunner's only big names were also nearly washed up when he fought them-his resume is very thin when you really look at it.
Floyd would get taken to court for murder if he ever fought Pacman, seriously. Pacman made a living on beating up fighters that Mayweather would have destroyed in his days as a super-featherweight and lightweight. In fact, those fighters Pacman made a living off of would have never been the big names they were if it weren't for Mayweather moving up in weight. No contest.... Mayweather in a walk. Clearly the better fighter. Legacy is nothing but opinionated fanboys mouthing off about their "favorites." Mayweather doesn't have a chance in this poll because Pacman is much more popular. Talking about "legacy" is a popularity contest, and Pacman wins that in a walk. So if being the more "popular" fighter means you have a better legacy, then sure, I'll go with Pacman. When it comes to in the ring, Pacman doesn't measure up. Nobody in their right mind (outside of the Phillipines) would put money down on Pacman against Mayweather. In fact, if Mayweather came back and knocked Pacman out, he would be even more hated than he is now.
you were doing great until you said this. and you only said it because yuo didn't agree with it. that makes you an "opinionated fanboy". dont do that.
The whole conversation of "legacy" is based on popularity. Fighters who are more popular by fans are considered to have a greater "legacy." I'll stick to the tale of the tape... in which case Pacman would get beat up in the ring by Mayweather as he will probably get beat up by Oscar as well. (Although Oscar is much bigger and is being a chump for taking this fight) I don't agree with the whole "legacy" comparison with ANY fighter to be perfectly honest. Always turns into fanboys who really aren't being objective and just going with their favorite fighters. You know it's true. I don't agree with the assumption that Pacman is somehow a greater fighter than Mayweather when he would clearly get beat inside the ring. As I said, no person in here who voted for Pacman would put money down if he were fighting Mayweather... I guarantee you that. Saying this fighter beat Fighter, A, B, and C is greater than the other fighter beating Fighter A, B, and C, is a ridiculous argument to have. It's nothing but conjecture and biased opinion, no substance.
it only turns into fanboys if you let it go that way. too many people on here resort to cheap comments becasue they dont know what else to say. i agree a lot is about conjecture but thats why we have the forums, agreed? but for me...pacman deserves the greater legacy because he'll be remembered as a 'balls of steel' fighter who took on all comers. at the edn of the day, even though i think floyd is certainly more gifted, he never backed it up in the same way. and thats just the truth imo.
The legacy argument just never does it for me. It's like arguing Joe Louis vs Ali or anybody else. There really is no way to measure them up because they never fought. Even the whole argument about "he fought the tougher competition" is IMPOSSIBLE to prove. You don't know how Mayweather's opponents would have matched up with Manny's opponents. (Unless the two opponents both fought each other. Considering the number of fights each fighter has had, this is an impossibility) Let me ask you this since you voted for Pacman. If Pacman were to beat Oscar somehow, and Floyd came out of retirment and knocked Manny out.... Would you still consider Pacman to have the greater legacy than the fighter who knocked him out? Yes, I agree the forums are for opinions... but opinions about upcoming fights when you can see "actual results" are a lot more interesting than fantasy matchups when people are clearly voting with their heart, and not their head. Based on fans alone, Pacman easily wins this poll anywhere you put it. That is why it is flawed and a pointless argument to have. You're not going to change a person's beliefs on a forum.
yes i would because pacman beat a naturally bigger guy. if floyd came out and beat pac afterwards he'd be more likely to be labelled a bully becasue h never fronted up to cotto before retiring and should take margo now to silence the doubters.
So Oscar isn't naturally bigger than Floyd? If Oscar knocks Manny out, and considering Floyd has a victory over Oscar... Does Manny still have the greater legacy? It's obvious Manny is your more "favorite" fighter out of the two. Floyd has been fighting bigger guys for YEARS now and gets hounded on because he doesn't go "toe to toe." I say it's a complete double-standard. Fact is, if Mayweather was a more humble fighter and loved fighter, this conversation and vote would be going completely the other way. As I said, popularity contest. Not that I don't got love for Manny, he is one of my favorite fighters, but noway, nohow does he ever beat Mayweather in a head to head matchup. Considering they are both roughly the same size, I go with the guy who would win in the ring vs winning the popularity vote.
Nobody ever said anything about a head to head matchup... mayweather obviously has too much size to go with his ability for pac to beat, in a p4p fight however... i doubt mayweather knocks pac out, i will say that much. however, 'legacy', like it or not.... is the premier way of sorting out rankings and overall value of a fighters body of work.... like it or not, thats how it is, and no... its not a 'popularity contest'... otherwise guys like gatti, ward and corrales would be viewed greater then they are.