Pac, Morales, Barrera and Marquez are far better wins then old DLH, Castillo, Corrales and Hatton a weight-class above his best. The other wins of PBF are solid but so are Pac´s. Close though but since Pac is till active I assume he will rank a notch higher than PBF. At the moment he´s the only current fighter who could possibly break into my top25, if he goes on 3-4 years or 6-8 fights against top noth opposition.
If we do that than no way PBF ranks higher because than we would stick with the facts and that´s not ability or talent but resume and accomplishments and longvity. H2h I agree PBF should outrank Pac but not when you rank strictly by resume, accomplishments, longvity like I do.
I said Mayweahter, but if '5 division champ' is the reason then I would go with Pac. Simply because as I said, Mayweahter's main sceleton in the closet is his cherry picking that has let him to have this '5 division champ' stamp of shame.
very true which is why I pick Pacquio. What dissapoints me about mayweather is I truly believe he could've gone down as the greatest ever, by unifying the 135, 140 divisions then moving up to welterweight and attempting to unify before losing to miguel cotto and retiring. But still many people would've made a case of him being past his prime and would've popped up on many peoples top pound for pound lists, but he chose the ***gots way out and so be it that is exactly what he is.
Pac lost his first fight when he was 17 years old, PBF didn't make his pro debut until he was 19,5. And Pac's second knockout loss was when he (at age 21) defended and lost his Flyweight championship belt vs a fighter with a perfect record at the time, don't know if you can call him a "nobody".
I do concur with you that as of now it is Mayweather (I wrote as much a page or so earlier and explained my reasons there), but do you not think that if Pacquiao beats Marquez, Campbell or Diaz, and maybe even Hatton or Malignaggi, (who actually gives a **** about the fight with Oscar?) that he will then have the greater legacy? I think he definitely would then, and I think it's a distinct possibility.
This is a very reductive line of reasoning to make a decision on a subject such as legacy. By your logic, Mayweather therefore has a greater legacy than more or less every fighter in history (Robinson, Greb, Duran, Ali, and on and on and on...), except Calzaghe and Marciano who went undefeated for longer. Some fighters from nations in different parts of the world have very different pre-world title careers to those of big-name fighters fighting in the USA or the UK. Fighters in places like Asia and Mexico get sent out as raw as they come to fight the best guys from the surrounding countries - if they get beat when they're a teenager by a guy they know nothing about when they've had very little boxing coaching, that really shouldn't matter a jot in terms of legacy. Guys like Floyd Mayweather, Roy Jones Jr, Sugar Ray Leonard, Pernell Whitaker - they were being groomed for greatness for day one. Yes, they took on difficult fights once they were at world title level, but their managers and promoters had a big say in the opponents and the fights. In their early days, guys like Manny Pacquiao, Jose Luis Castillo, even going back to Carlos Monzon in Argentina, these guys did not have the same management/career structure that 'protecting the zero' was even a concern. I agree that just now, the answer is probably Mayweather, but your reasoning for giving that answer is flawed.
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Pac is a good fighter, but he is not in Floyd's class. He has not fought enough prime fighters to match Floyd. Floyd has never lost, and Floyd has more skills.