Greater win: Ali/Foreman or Leonard/Hager?

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  1. Happy Slap

    Happy Slap New Member Full Member

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    The Ali win. Because we know for sure he beat Foreman. Many people and Hagler himself believe that leonard did not do enough to win the title from Hagler. Only seen highlights myself so i will have to watch the whole fight.
    The Ali fight was bigger and he knocked his opponent out.
    Rumble in the Jungle all the way!
     
  2. LordJomski

    LordJomski Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ali/Foreman.. Because its a legit win..

    SRL/Hagler? :conf
     
  3. Cableaddict

    Cableaddict Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Seeing as SRL didn't REALLY beat Hagler, it has t be Ali-Foreman.

    Then again, Foreman got an astoundingly short count (actually only 8 seconds, if you time it) so maybe it's a tie?
     
  4. cpnasty

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  5. Slothrop

    Slothrop Boxing Junkie banned

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    Ali/Foreman by a mile.
     
  6. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I guess the poll results say it all. I guess it's not a knock on Leonard's win but just that Ali's win is one of the greatest wins ever.
     
  7. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    P4P...Probably Leonard-Hagler.

    Hagler was past his prime, but don't forget SRL was coming from a very long layoff. Also, he was climbing up a division.
     
  8. peakbay

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    Ali's

    hagler won that fight
     
  9. PanchoVilla

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    no-brainer.. Ali-Foreman hands down and the win was more convincing.. the same cannot be said with Leonard-Hagler w/c ended in SD
     
  10. tomasjohnson92

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    Def ali-foreman because it was a definitive win, I will always believe that Leonard lost or drew with hagler in a close fight
     
  11. Goyourownway

    Goyourownway Insanity enthusiast Full Member

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    Unless you're a clueless gimp that's blinkered by revisionist history,it's quite clearly Leonard's hard fought,but well earned victory over Hagler,who was a far superior fighter than George Foreman ever was(both in terms of skill and achievements).


    Leonard's victory over Hagler remains the single greatest victory of the last 25 years,and unquestionably ranks up there among the absolute greatest in history.



    Sugar Ray simply was that good.
     
  12. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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  13. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    unless you hate foreman and are a leonard lover, its clear that Ali vs Foreman was a much bigger win .

    foreman 40-0 (37 KOs) on the upside of his career in his early to mid 20s

    hagler at age 33 was on the decline having been beaten 2 times and held to 2 draws previously.

    out of 40 media experts polled, 39 picked foreman

    it was split on hagler and leonard.

    ali knocked out the champion and left no doubts.
    leonard won a questionable decision thats still debated today

    :deal

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  14. Sunchild78

    Sunchild78 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ali vs Foreman with out a doubt. Although Ali and Leonard were expected to loose those fights. Leonard victory was controversial, while Ali victory was unquestionable.
     
  15. Goyourownway

    Goyourownway Insanity enthusiast Full Member

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    The exact type of revisionist drivel that I was talking about.:lol:


    Split? The general consensus at the time was heavily against Leonard.Hagler was 32,hadn't been beaten in over a decade was was universally regarded as being the absolute best fighter in the sport.And - here comes the most important part - Leonard was two weight classes above his prime weight and hadn't fought in over three years(just one bout in five years).



    There isn't a single credible argument to be made for Ali-Foreman being a "a much bigger win", because Foreman wasn't that good.