Greater win: Monzon RTD7 Napoles or Lomachenko RTD6 Rigondeaux

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  1. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    IMO I think both fights were pretty similar in terms of circumstances and outcomes. Both fights were highly anticipated by boxing experts because of the high skill level that these fighters possessed, both Napoles and Rigo moved up 2 weight classes to fight the champ, and both fights turned out to be one sided contests ending with the Cuban fighters retiring on their stools. Monzon and Loma were already highly regarded fighters but their wins over Napoles and Rigo helped legitimize their P4P rankings.

    Which would you say was a better performance and win overall? I know people will say that Rigo was old when he fought Loma but he was still a solid fighter, undefeated, and was perceived as a possible threat to Loma at the time.
     
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  2. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Easily the former, because Rigo can't carry Napoles' jock, and because Monzon's performance was more impressive.
     
  3. Tin_Ribs

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    Monzon over Napoles. Napoles was just a better, more expansive and skilled fighter than Rigondeaux and not at the stylistic disadvantage that Rigo was, though it's true when kev says the size difference was monstrous between Napoles and Monzon, more so than Loma-Rigo.

    With regard to Napoles having success in the early rounds, he was a fighter who established range and rhythm very quickly where Monzon was a notable slow starter who didn't mind taking his time and dropping rounds to win the war. We ultimately also don't know how the hand injury affected Rigondeaux, though I tend to take it with a pinch of salt somewhat. Obviously it hindered him and he went into his shell and never really fought to win from the 2nd onwards after an ok first even though taking it to Loma was his only real chance imo. Napoles on the other hand faced a similar choice against Monzon and went at him with fire in his veins like the hard drinking bad mother#cker he was and never stopped trying until his corner pulled him out.
     
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  4. ChrisJS

    ChrisJS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Rigondeaux’s “injury” was BS. Just tried to save face for a terrible performance and pitiful surrender.

    Napoles was much better than Rigondeaux so I think that makes me lean that way.
     
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  5. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Strange little comparison, not that I don't like it. Napoles had moved up more, but wasn't 37 like Rigo was. I think that makes Mantequilla a more credible win (on that lone premise, not the fact that it's Napoles, who's levels above Rigo anyway.).

    Monzón didn't look all too good imo untill he started to hammer away in the last two rounds, whereas I don't think Rigo won a consecutive, actually no, total, ten seconds in that fight. Rigo was totally shut down by the younger, fresher, bigger and better fighter.

    Loma had a more dominant win, and imo a better performance, but with Rigo being so much worse than Napoles, Monzon's win is definitely better.
     
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  6. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    The undisputed welterweight champion facing off against the undisputed middleweight champion is always going to be a big fight and pretty hard to top in terms of status. What's interesting about this one is that Napoles was so highly rated by boxing scribes all over the world while Monzon at that point probably still had some level of doubt held against him. This was a huge win for him as it proved that he was the real deal and a great middleweight champ. That's the stature of the win. I don't think the Loma win over Rigondeaux had remotely the same stature to it.