Greatest 3 Lightweights outside the 'Big 3'

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  1. Gudetama

    Gudetama Active Member Full Member

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    It appears that many rate Gans, Duran and Benny Leonard as the top three ATG lightweights. (I personally have them in that order, but am happy to see them placed in any order). How would you have the next three? Or do you disagree entirely?
    Myself, I have: 4. Armstrong, 5. Ike Williams, 6. Whitaker.
    (Shouts out to Canzoneri, Ross, Pryor, Arguello, Chavez, Mayweather, etc).
    Educate me, ladies and gentlemen.
     
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  2. JackSilver

    JackSilver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    1. Whitaker
    2. Chavez
    3. Arguello
    4. Duran
    5. Mosely
     
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  3. Gudetama

    Gudetama Active Member Full Member

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    Always happy to see Mosley rated so highly. If the money had been in that division, and he had stayed there, I would place him higher than I do. Do you think a peak LW Mosley handles a peak LW Mayweather, then?
     
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  4. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    How many fights did Pryor have at lightweight because I usually see his former opponent Arguello rated above him on all time lists even though he beat him at light welter?
     
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  5. Brixton Bomber

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    Camaco has to be up there, surely?
     
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  6. Neebur

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    Carlos Ortiz deserves a huge mention here.
     
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  7. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    As does Ike Williams.

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  8. Jester

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    Joe Brown and Freddie Welsh are names that deserve some consideration.
     
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  9. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ummm.... no.
     
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  10. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Amen!

    Ortiz is a consensus top 5 lightweight. In fact, since the 60s, only Duran has a better lightweight resume than Ortiz.

    Ortiz ranks ahead of Chavez.
     
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  11. Brixton Bomber

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    Why not?
     
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  12. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You have Arguello ahead of Roberto Duran?
     
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  13. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    That's right!
     
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  14. Tin_Ribs

    Tin_Ribs Me Full Member

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    I think Ortiz's resume at lightweight is superior to Duran's, X. Laguna x2, Elorde, Brown, Locche, Rosi, Lane, Ramos x2, Bizzarro, Charnley Tec. I think that beats Buchanan, DeJesus x2, Thompson, Robertson, Fernandez, Lampkin, Lou Bizzarro, Ishimatsu, Viruet and such. Ortiz's record at the weight is arguably the best since Leonard imo. Definitely the best of the last 50 years.
     
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  15. BundiniBlack

    BundiniBlack Well-Known Member Full Member

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    His title fight at 140 against Cervantes was I think his 2nd maybe 3rd fight above LW
     
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