Greatest all-Mexican fights

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  1. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    One of the best things about Mexican boxing and one of the reasons I love fighters from there is that the best Mexicans have never been afraid to fight each other. All-Mexican clashes at the highest level of the sport have been commonplace and the rivalries have been intense.

    So let's pay homage to the great Mexican fighters of the past by naming as many of the best all-Mexican fights there have been.
     
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  2. ChrisJS

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    With the exception of Canelo, pretty much every Mexican superstar fighter has been likable too. No BS, no drama, no ego etc;

    Marquez-Vazquez, Morales-Barrera, Olivares-Castillo were great series. Zarate-Zamora arguably the single biggest all Mexican fight ever, great action.
     
  3. Amos-san

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    Some WARs:

    Olivares vs Pimentel
    Medel vs Pimentel
    R Gonzalez vs Chango Carmona
     
  4. WAR01

    WAR01 In the 7.2% Full Member

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    God I hate how Canelo tries to claim he’s this Mexican warrior he hasn’t earned it nor will he ever.
     
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  5. George Crowcroft

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    There's no full footage obviously, but Herrera-Martinez II looks pretty legendary based on reports and the highlights. I also don't know if he counts as a Mexican, but I definitely remember an announcer saying he fought out of Mexico, but Eleoncio Mercedes had an amazing war with German Torres.

    When I think of Mexican battlers, the three names to instantly come to mind are Ortega, Zaragoza and Morales. I was surprised to see that Zaragoza doesn't really have many top tier fights with other Mexicans, unless there's some I'm missing of course. Zarate & Morales weren't boring, but they weren't exactly thrillers either. And TBH, it's quite sad seeing such old, receding hairline guys ultimately get taken out. Same with Ortega, there just doesn't seem to be many on there.

    Anyway, here's what I came up with:

    Morales-Barrera I & III
    Vasquez-Marquez I, II & III
    Chavez-Martinez
    Olivares-Herrera I & II
    Medel-Pimental
    Morales-Chavez
    Olivares-Castillo I & II
    Zarate-Zamora
    Vasquez-Gonzalez
    Estrada-Cuadras
     
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  6. scartissue

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    Going back a bit further, Jose Becerra fought Jose Medel 3 times and Medel fought Toluco Lopez twice. One could only imagine how those fights unfurled. But I would have loved to have been ringside for the Rogelio Lara v Julio Guerrero bantamweight war. Check out the report:

    Rogelio Lara 118 lbs beat Julio Guerrero 118 lbs by KO at 0:31 in round 8 of 10
    • Date: 1970-04-18
    • Location: Forum, Inglewood, California, USA
    • Referee: Dick Young
    "A right to the jaw put Lara down in the 2nd. In the next round, a right uppercut dropped Guerrero for a short count and a cut opened under his left eye. Guerrero was knocked through the ropes in the 4th but came back to buckle Lara's knees at the bell. A left hook put Lara flat on his back and a right-left combo had Rogelio down again in the 6th as Guerrero opened up a vicious assault. But the tide began to turn in a free-swinging 7th and Lara belted Julio through the ropes in the 8th and before Guerrero could crawl back and regain his feet, it was all over." -San Antonio Light
     
  7. Jel

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    That sounds amazing. Please someone have film somewhere!

    One that is on YouTube but I haven't yet seen featuring Lara is his challenge to Romeo Anaya in 1973. Sounds fun from the description on boxrec.
     
  8. salsanchezfan

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    My own favorites are Zarate-Zamora, Morales-Barrera 1, Herrera-Castillo (where Herrera wins), Zarate-Pintor, and Pintor-Meza, a somewhat forgotten classic.
     
  9. ChrisJS

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    Raton Macias said Medel’s biggest mistake was beating Toluco. It hurt his popularity among Mexican fans because Toluco was so popular
     
  10. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I thought Herrera beating olivares was much the same due to his popularity. Great point, chris
     
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  11. salsanchezfan

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    Not that it means anything, but I draw a definite line between Mexican and Mexican-American. Different things. Different gyms, different competition.........and of course just ask a Mexican national if there's a difference and whom they'd root for.
     
  12. Man_Machine

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    I get the distinction and I am inclined to agree with the drawing of a line, but I'm still going to include:

    Palomino vs Muniz I

    Terrific bout. :)
     
  13. Jel

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    Mexico v Mexican-American debate aside, there are some interesting choices here - credit where it's due - thanks Ra's!
     
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  14. George Crowcroft

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    Coherent, good content, mostly done inside the rules... I'm impressed!
     
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  15. BoxingDialogue

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    Barrera vs Marquez is my favorite
     
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