Greatest Ever To Lose a Lot

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I have looked at Box Recs records for McCoy fights , this morning.
    There is no mention of any disqualification losses to
    Strong
    Matlock
    White
    Indeed there is no mention of McCoy having ever fought any of those three!
     
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  2. mcvey

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    Zivic and McCoy have no DSQ defeats
     
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  3. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Zivic never lost a fight by DSQ!
     
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  4. GoldenHulk

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    Matthew Saad Muhammad, although he fought on way too long after losing the WBC lightheavyweight title.
     
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  5. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    No, never thought he did - just had a lot of losses which is the reason I thought of him for the thread.
     
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  6. LD Boxer-Puncher

    LD Boxer-Puncher Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Very true, but he still had the losses. I'm literally asking just about a ratio between greatness and losses accumulated, whatever the reason for the losses may be
     
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  7. salsanchezfan

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    Might be a leading question on your part (well played if so) but of course there is no such ratio. Your question could only be answered in the affirmative if boxing history through present day existed in a vacuum, and nothing does.

    What makes a better fighter, going through the hard knocks and fighting progressively harder, tougher fighters, while taking a few lumps and learning and applying those lessons later, or...……...protecting that all-too-holy zero that everyone seems so fascinated with?

    Is Mr. Zero better simply because he looks better stat-wise? There are a few here who would argue "yes" which is sad.
     
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  8. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    Glencoffe Johnson. Champion who lost a lot during his prime, mostly attributed to home-cooking for his foe.
    2004 proved it. Got the IBF title after Woods, beat RJJ & Tarver, that is a great year of wins as he was 39-9-1.
    regardless of his many defeats up to that point,
     
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  9. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    While not the greatest champion though a good one who made a mark. Pipino Cuevas lost a # of fights before his run and then after he lost the title.
     
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  10. mcvey

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    I've checked it twice today, copy what you see and post it..
     
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  11. LD Boxer-Puncher

    LD Boxer-Puncher Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It's not really that deep. Of course such a ratio can exist, although obviously it will be largely opinion based. It effectively is based on how much of an ATG a person ranks the fighter as, if its a lot, and said fighter has lost a lot of fights, then the ratio they carry is going to be pretty hard to better. That is all I'm saying, it's not really a ratio but it's an easy way to describe it
     
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  12. Eddie Ezzard

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    That's who i was thinking of. Mind you, while Robinson and Holyfield racked up their losses at the end of their careers. Pipino got his in at the start. Then again, he was only 14 when he was losing.
     
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