Greatest example of fight strategy; ring generalship

toney-ruiz was pretty good.

toney would clown a bit but just do enough to keep it even when ruiz threw th erigth hand toney countered i think EVERY shot and came back with a right cross lead.
he mad e amuch bigger man wait for oppertunity's to which made all toney's pucnhes more effective with the lower work rate.



hopkins-trinidad was a good showing.
trinidad known for his amazing left hook was thought to be able to ko bernard. the defence was to keep a high right guard covering his whole temple and jaw. and also gave tito bait....a left uppercut. all night hopkins was dropping a shadow left uppercut to which as trinidad got more desperate started to instinctivly throw his money punch when he could when hopkins left himself supposovly open with the uppercut... everytime trinidad did bite he got caught with a right cross.

also hopkins-hoya was pretty good. th eonly way oscar coudl win was to throw alot of pitter pat punches when he was close. hopkins didnt give him that oppertunity and so didnt use his natural wiegth advantage that would of given oscar a chance.
when oscar go ttired he just threw more power punches well placed and oscar couldnt counter off them.



terry norris-simon brown II
norris was confident that becuase simon was able to hurt him in the last fight he made it his priority to give brown openings.
when terry got in there he boxed and moved but strangyl staye dnear the ropes. when brown came close terry threw a heavy fient to get a response out of simon to throw his right lead that simon was loading. when or if simon threw that rigth terry would lean back and come back with a combination...
when a guy looks to counter you give him a oppertunity so he used fients to get that ritgh hand to move and when he did let that rigth hand go he had shot his bolt and couldnt reload another shot.



darnell boone who is a super middlewieght journeyman fought a guy called lajuan simon. now simon is a tall, tall lad and used his jab to keep the 5'9 boone on the outside. what boone did was not stand there and get jabbed but backpeddled into a corner inch by inch. when simon had him in the corner he let his hands go. so boone came foreward and pivoted on his left leg and then had simon in th ecorner to which simon being as tall as he was couldnt outmuscle him or clinch becuase darnell was right under his nose.

boone also countered andre ward rather effectivly until he ran out of steam...for a journeyman domestic region fighter boon epulled of some stunning fight plans as he had nothing else. no reach, no power,no speed or hieght so used his his assests effectivly.

 

The insane rope a dope?

 

He did fight properly. He landed far more clean blows and dictated the tempo of the fight. Better, defense, ring generalship, and strategy. Leonard was a blown-up welterweight fighting a super strong, iron jawed champion who he couldn't hurt and did what he had to do to win and did it brilliantly.

Not getting Hagler angry? So that low blow windup Bolo punch in the 4th round was Leonard trying not to get Hagler angry? I guess he just wanted to humiliate him but not anger him.

If you think Hagler won the fight fine. Half the people who ever watched agree with you. Your account of the fight is a little too slanted though.

 

srr vs jake lamotta. srr knew lamotta was gonna keep coming and coming and all he did was become the matador and took care of the charginh bull great display of strategy and ring generalmenship

 

Duran v Leonard I is the best example there is, as far as I am aware. Good thread JerseyJoe.

 

What about Ali - Foreman?

 

..............I've mentioned it here before, but have a gander at Lionel Rose against Fighting Harada.

One of the most masterful boxing displays you'll ever see.

 

How good was Fighting Harada? I ask as you have obviously seen him, and I haven't. I've read about him but never tracked down any actual footage.

 

Yes, I've seen it, he boxes beautifully against a real swarmer.

Have you seen Rose - Rudkin or Harada - Rudkin?

 

I would describe Barrera's methods in his win over Hamed as turn the boxing match into a street fight than turn that street fight into a boxing match.

 

Hopkins vs Pavlik most recently...... Pavlik had the edge in stamina, handspeed , power and youth, yet Hopkins took away all those strengths.

 

Have you seen these?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgpMyeHSzO0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ft1JgSqHzTM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jx8jRkJA2xQ

 

Muhammad Ali v George Foreman stands alone as the best on the spot strategy ever.

A lot of people dont know that Ali actually came into that fight with the intention to dance for 15 rds if necessary but Foreman turned out to be much better & smarter than Ali 1st thought & cut the ring off masterfully.
Ali knew in between rds 1 & 2 that he would have 0 chance to dance for 15 the way he had in rd 1 so came up with a quite audacious plan that we now know as the`rope-a-dope.`

Masterfull is not the word, magical is more appropriate.

 

Ring Generalship.....Taylor-Hopkins. Hopkins was taken out of his zone and his gameplan TWICE by a Superior Boxer, who was physically stronger.

Toney-Ruiz. Toney schooled this sucker hard, only to be robbed by Racist Boxiong Politics and lies.

Tyson-Douglas....They need to show the 2012 Olympic Boxing team this fight so they can learn basic fundamentals of the sport from Buster.