Greatest fighter ever with two '1-punch KO/TKO' losses = _________? (w/ photos)

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  1. barneyrub

    barneyrub Well-Known Member Full Member

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    barneyrub, Jul 17, 2007
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  2. Mook

    Mook Member Full Member

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    I think LL is more significant historically, but RJJ was absolutely brilliant.

    If people were properly picky over what constitutes an ATG, these would be the only locks from the past decade or so, imo
     
    Mook, Jul 17, 2007
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  3. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Now, see, that's a real argument. Nice job, refraining from 'You're a moron, I can't think of anything to say!' junk.

    Of all 4 KO losses between Lewis and Jones, the McCall KO of Lewis is the only one which could, IMO, be legitiamtely be argued that it was stopped too soon. I think it's a weak argument - Lewis was totally glossed, IMO - but at least it's an argument.

    Well done! :happy
     
    paulfv, Jul 17, 2007
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  4. Stewbear

    Stewbear Active Member Full Member

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    well since Lewis McCall was a TKO....
     
    Stewbear, Jul 17, 2007
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  5. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Here's the YouTube link for Lewis-McCall I, judge for yourself if it was stopped too soon (don't want to post the whole thing here b/c it's about 9 minutes long and would take a lot of bandwidth):

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IlS0JnUBiU
     
    paulfv, Jul 17, 2007
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  6. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Please see reply #15 :)

    Jones-Tarver II was a TKO, too, wasn't it?
     
    paulfv, Jul 17, 2007
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  7. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    For BarneyRub and Stewbear:

    You have forced me to change the thread title -- you win!!

    :thumbsup
     
    paulfv, Jul 17, 2007
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  8. Mook

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    always thought the McCall stoppage was a dreadful, dreadful one.

    Still, LL would have probably boxed his way to a UD and then never hooked up with Manny
     
    Mook, Jul 17, 2007
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  9. Stewbear

    Stewbear Active Member Full Member

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    lol I think the point trying to make was Lewis got up:D and was a terrible stoppage
    also I always thought that knockout said a lot about jones' chin because it is very over rated and didnt look that devestating
     
    Stewbear, Jul 17, 2007
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  10. Stewbear

    Stewbear Active Member Full Member

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    Also just watched Jones johnson again and that little ***** right hand to the year had jones down for how long!
    In his prime Jones was brilliant some of the best reflexes ever, but Lewis fought far better competition and was hit with thunderous shots throughout his career two of which put him down and one for the count.
    Also just comapring the stoppages jones walks away stumbling to the corner at 10 while Lewis is up before 8 and walks towards the referee with his hands held up/
     
    Stewbear, Jul 17, 2007
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  11. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He was still messed up like 15 minutes later, no joke.

    Lewis' KO loss to Rhaman wasn't close to as bad as Jones' KO loss to Johnson.
     
    paulfv, Jul 17, 2007
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  12. Danny Ocean

    Danny Ocean My nAmE IS MoNeY Full Member

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    lennox over jones every day of the week

    Lewis

    Klitschko
    Tua
    Holyfield
    Mercer
    Morrison
    Golota
    Tucker
    Ruddock


    Jones Jr

    Toney
    Hopkins
    Ruiz
    Griffin
    TarverHarding
    Hill
    Mccallum


    no contest lewis has a better record
     
    Danny Ocean, Jul 17, 2007
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  13. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You're not talking about this phenomenon, are you:


    This content is protected

    ***********Roy & the hobos************
     
    paulfv, Jul 17, 2007
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  14. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Who was greater? Jones, of course. His two one-punch KO losses came at the END of his career, not in the heart of it. And it took better guys to get him out of there, even though he was clearly past his prime.
     
    Zakman, Jul 17, 2007
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  15. thesandman

    thesandman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How old was Jones v Johnson and Tarver?

    How old was Lewis v Rahman???


    And neither Johnson or Tarver are a great deal better than Rahman and McCall respectively IMO. All 4 are best known for beating the 2 guys this thread is about!!!!!!!!!!!!

    NO way was the Rahman fight in the heart of Lewis career. He was about 35, and after the rematch only had 2 more fights left!
     
    thesandman, Jul 17, 2007
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