Greatest fighter ever with two '1-punch KO/TKO' losses = _________? (w/ photos)

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  1. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Age is just a number, what counts is how much they had left. Their subsequent careers indicate where they were respectively.

    And was Lewis not considered the best HW in the world in 2001??? Did he not supposedly prove that when he knocked out Rahman? Clearly, he had a lot left.

    Tarver was a touted contender for Jones' title long before he actually beat him. He was also a highly regarded amateur. Johnson, it is true, is more on the level of McCall and Rahman, but he's proven over the long run to be a better fighter.
     
  2. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    I agree with that. Johnson and Tarver were both top class LHW's, Johnson still being one in fact.

    Rahman and McCall are always 2nd raters, McCall at the time of KOing Lewis was almost considered a journeyman.
     
  3. PIRA

    PIRA Arise Sir Lennox. Full Member

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    Zakman,


    No way can their level of comp be compared. It can be quite legitimately argued that Jones' KO's came at the end of the career that-should-have-been-but-never-was. Jones fought to the level of cash on offer rather than legacy - many is the fan that wishes Jones had stepped up and faced all a' la Lennox rather than take the route he did.
     
  4. thesandman

    thesandman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Is McCall not NOW currently a mandatory challenger for the WBC?

    Does that equal "top class" or not? Rahman held the belt again how long ago??


    (Don't take that as me being a Rock fan. He's the biggest waste of 'some' talent there is.)

    And what was Roy considered in the first KO loss to Tarver?? best, second best? What?


    I can be convinced either way with a good argument. But comparison of opponents I find very similar. Johnson for years was considered the true definition of journeyman.
     
  5. PIRA

    PIRA Arise Sir Lennox. Full Member

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    But look at the KO - a wild shot with the eyes closed does not equal class - it equals luck. Over a long career luck can desert you at any point in the fight game - combine that with a poor stoppage and you have Lewis-McCall.

    BTW McCall for a "journeyman" back then has had a remarkable reinvigoration hasn't he - or maybe the HW's are that **** today.
     
  6. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    i would say rjj is by far the better fighter
     
  7. Snakefist

    Snakefist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wow people think the Johnson fight was a 1-punch KO? Lol he was kicking Roy's ass from the start of the first bell to the 9th. I don't consider that a 1 punch I consider that Roy getting hit repeatedly over and over again flush, then getting hurt and getting smashed. The Tarver KO is definitely 1 punch material, until that point Roy was winning the fight.
     
  8. CASH_718

    CASH_718 "You ****ed Healy?" Full Member

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    no he's right. Roy's skills weren't so great he was very unconventional and made alot of mistakes in the ring but his speed and reflexs always made up for it.
     
  9. thesandman

    thesandman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    His first KO loss came about a year after beating Ruiz for the heavy title, when everyone was proclaiming RJJ as God himself.

    Once again, you're skewing facts and slanting things one way for one guy, but not giving the SAME criteria to other guy.
     
  10. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thanks. It's always nice to talk to a fellow boxing fan who actually knows what he is talking about. :)

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    For those who were saying Jones - Johnson was not a 1-punch KO, take a look for yourself:

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    You'll notice RJJ is totally fine - not hurt, not shaken, nothing - until he takes a crunching right hand. If that isn't a 1-punch KO, nothing is, IMO.
     
  11. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Can anyone think of any other excellent fighters who could go on this list? There have to be some old-timers, I would imagine.
     
  12. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Totally agree