Greatest Fighters most Americans don't know about

There was a fella from South Africa named Brian Mitchell who if not great was a pretty damn good boxer. He was Jr Lightweight Champion for a good while.

He never fought Azumah but I saw him whip Tony Lopez at Arco Arena only to get a draw in the other guys hometown. I was a fan of Lopez but Mitchell boxed his ears off.

They had a rematch again at Arco in Sacramento and I went to that one and Brian Mitchell outboxed Lopez again but this time got the decision.

He was an excellant fighter. Nice skillset, good quickness and counterpunching ability. Not a big banger but he made it work and he won alot of fights.

 

I left Mitchell out because he did fight Lopez, and got a little tiny bit of attention from the US Media. But he's a good pick.

I was reading snippets of his autobiography last night, and it's actually unbelieveable the amount of **** he had to go through just to defend his title.
It was speculated, with strong circumstantial evidence, that one time Don King tried to sabotage a Mitchell title fight in Puerto Rico by forbidding the appointed ref and two judges from flying out. King's tentacles spread far and wide.
With 30 minutes to go before the contest, they still had no clue who was going to ref and judge the fight. :-(

Lots of other stuff a well...but this thread is not about Mitchell.

 

General Forum never ceases..

I've always considered it one of the better wins of all-time. Sure, Ross may have been on the 'downside' of a wholly magnificent career, but he's Top 15 material to begin with. It's not as if he wasn't the reigning champion, didn't hold a firm weight advantage or had even lost more than a single bout (to McLarnin of all fighters) in the previous seven years leading up to it. Armstrong dominated to top it off. FFS... atsch

Ambers was brutal.

Still probably my favorite single feat in the sport, Henry's. Who he beat to do it makes it all the more special.

 

I wonder if Jeff Fenech should be mentioned here. I mean, yeah, he got recognition from the US media once he fought Nelson and got jobbed, but I don't recall seeing him in too many articles when he was fighting at the lower weights.
And Fenech was a great fighter.
For what he accomplished, I think he deserved more recognition.

 

Peter Jackson ?

 

This content is protected

This content is protected

This content is protected

This content is protected

Most Americans think, when you sail out of US waters, you fall off the edge of the world.

 

Probably not, imo. Not at the time at least. He got a ton of good press when he came to US shores.

Today...absolutely.

 

Nope. It's about the right fighters getting the credit they deserve.

Don't doubt my love for Thai fighters, you don't know ****.

You wanna' learn? Seems to me you know enough, enough to make assumptions about other posters/countries.

This thread is EXACTLY what you're accusing me of. You set the tone with your first few condescending posts. Hence why I called you out (there are many examples of me encouraging noobs with one or two posts, as long ad they're not bell ends)

So STFU and do one.

 

Check out the Encyclopedia thread...plenty of effort to educate on there.

Ask anyone, im one of the most helpful here, just not to ******s.

 

What is the real spelling of his surname? I see you have it as Payakaroon, which is the way most seem to spell it. I've also seen Payakarun though, so I'm not sure.

Not terribly familiar with Payakaroon...so I need to ask you one or two questions. I saw him get destroyed by Fenech many years ago...what's up there?
Samart looked pretty good (great movement) for two rounds before Fenech just mauled him into defeat. Was he at the end of the road, or was Fenech just too strong?

 

Weight drained BIG TIME for Fenech and partying his ass off. And already a veteran of 150+ fights!

Phonetic spellings of Thai names=no real answer. Seen Shengsak Muangsurin as well as Saensak, Borkorsor as well as Borkhorsor...I would say Payakrun (less dwelling on the oon bit; more of a un as in run rather than macaroon) judging on how the Thai's say it.

Defensive savant, big puncher, nice jab when he used it, chin made of rock. 3 weight Lumpinee MT champ. Incredible.

Fought Netrnoi Sor Vorasingh on his pro' boxing debut

 

I'll check out more of Payakroon (Or whowever you spell it) if he's as good as you say he is. :thumbsup

 

Payakaroon looked good against Pintor, i was really surprised the way he fell apart against Fenech. The weight was `probably a factor though.

 

here are some from Europe.

Some known, Some not so well known, some Great!

EUROPA Boxing Greats.

Norge: Peter Sanstøl, Terry Martin, Otto von Porat.

Sverige: Ingemar Johansson, Harry Persson, Olle Tandberg, George Scott, Armand Kranjc.

Danmark: Battling Nelson, Kid Williams, Johnny Bredahl, Dick Nelson, Mikkel Kessler, Tom Bogs, Harry Pierce, Waldemar Holberg, Pete Hartley, Knud Larsen, Jørgen Hansen, Gert Bo Jacobsen, Børge Krogh, Søren Søndegård, Brian Nielsen.

England: Bob Fitzsimmons, Ted "Kid" Lewis, Owen Moran, Lennox Lewis, Jack "Kid" Berg, Len Harvey, Freddie Mills, Peter Kane, Lloyd Honeyghan, Ricky Hatton, Naseem Hamed, Chris Eubank, Nigel Benn, Terry Downes, Clinton Woods, Matt Wells, Jock McAvoy, Alan Minter, Joe Bowker, John Stracey, John Conteh, Randy Turpin... mange flere her.

Wales: Jimmy Wilde, Freddie Welsh, Jim Driscoll, Howard Winstone, Joe Calzaghe, Tommy Farr, Johnny Basham, Johnny Owen.

Irland: "Nonpareil" Jack Dempsey, Jack McAuliffe, Peter Maher, Rinty Monaghan, Barry McGuigan, Tom McCormick, Steve Collins, Mike Donovan.

Skottland: Ken Buchanan, Benny Lynch, Jackie Paterson, Murray Sutherland, Tommy Milligan, Jim Watt, Bert Gilroy, Scott Harrison, Walter McGowan, Elky Clark, Peter Keenan, Alex Arthur, Pat Clinton, Gary Jacobs.

Tyskland: Max Schmeling, Walter Neusel, Eric Seeling, Henry Maske, Sven Ottke, Graciano Rocchigiani,Eckhard Dagge, Adolf Hauser, Gustav Scholz, Karl Mildenberger, Lothar Abend, Rudy Unholz, Gustav Eder, Jupp Besselmann, Young Mahoney, Felix Sturm.

Franrike: Georges Carpentier, Marcel Cerdan, Lurent Daunthuille, Marcel Thil, Eugene Criqui, Robert Villemain, Andre Routis, Bruno Girard, Laurent Boudouani, Jean Baptiste Mendy, Jean Marc Mormeck, Fabrice Tiozzo, Julien Lorcy.

Italia: Nino Benvenuti, Young Corbett III, Duilio Loi, Primo Carnera, Mario D'Agata, Patrizio Olivia, Gianfranco Rosi, Vito Auntofermo, Sumbu Kalambay, Sandro Lopopolo, Sandro Mazzingi, Francesco Damiani, Rocky Mattioli, Antonio Puddu.

Spania: Paolino Uzcudun, Baltasar Sangchili, Jose Duran, Javier Castillejo, Miguel Velasquez, Pedro Carrasco, Fred Galina, Juan Melero, Roberto Castanon.

Polen: Darius Michalchzewski, Andrew Golota, Thomaz Adamek, Krystov Wlodarczyk.

Russland: Kostya Tszyu, Louis "Kid" Kaplan, Yuri Arbachakov, Oleg Maskaev, Nikolai Valuev, Roman Kazmarin.

Ukraina: Wladimir Klitchko, Benny Bass, Vitali Klitchko, Vladimir Sidorenko.

Ungarn: Laszlo Papp, Zsolt Erdei, Istvan "Ko-ko" Kovacs.

Belgia: Karel Sys, Gustave Roth, Jean Marc Renard, Arthur Wyns, Rene DeVos, Jean Sneyers, Pete Hoban, Henri Scille, Felix Wouters, Francois Sybille.

Finland: Gunnar Barlund, Amin Asikainen, Ellis Ask.

Sveits: Frank Erne, Mauro Martelli.