Greatest fighters that were never stopped

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  1. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    A few names on the list just have the single stoppage defeat - Robinson and Ali chiefly among them - but I was a little surprised Tony Canzoneri (only one stoppage as well) didn’t make your top 30. Great list though as @My dinner with Conteh already said.
     
  2. Greg Price99

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    I usually rate the "win 5, lose 1, won 6, lose another" over great opposition, lower than most, whilst rating fighters who dominated an era at their weight class, over supposedly "weak" opposition, higher than most.

    I'm still working on my 31-50, but I think Canzoneri, Hagler, Napoles, BJW and Griffiths will comprise the 31-35, in one order or another.
     
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    No. 3 is my favourite of the series, and my #4 film of all time.

    The purists don't like the inclusion on a male thespian, but I prefer the versatility, the flying camel scene, inparticular, is a classic. One for the more refined connessiours amongst us.
     
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  4. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    Yeah, I understand that approach as it’s certainly one I take a lot of the time. Dominance and consistency are two of the key ingredients for me for a great fighter so I can see why Canzoneri could be marked down a little against that criteria.

    I just think he’s not that much lower in a list than someone like Barney Ross (who definitely does fit the more dominant/consistent performer and winner model), who he came close to beating twice, although he lost both on slender decisions. But it’s all about fine margins at the very top end of p4p lists.
     
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    Their 2 fights certainly support your position Jel.

    I just couldn't see prime Ross losing to some of the boxers Tony did in and around his own prime. Though, tbf, Canzernori fought substantially more regularly, so perhaps I'm not factoring that in enough.
     
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    Panama Al Brown
    Mike McCallum
    Marvin Hagler
    Pancho Villa
    Kid Gavilan
    Juan Manuel Marquez
    Salvador Sanchez
    Gene Tunney
    Eder Jofre
    Barney Ross
    Duilio Loi
    Khaosai Galaxy
    Mike Gibbons
    Charley Burley
    James Toney
    Winky Wright
    Gennady Golovkin
    Canelo Alvarez
    Packey McFarland
    Carlos Monzon

    I didn't want to include undefeated fighters.
     
  7. Frankus

    Frankus Active Member Full Member

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    Pancho Villa?

    Edit: Oh I see DynamicPuncher added already.
     
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  8. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Me too
     
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  9. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Great work, D!!
     
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