Greatest fighters to never win a title?

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  1. RafaelGonzal

    RafaelGonzal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You can name one or a few here is mine:

    Pedro Montanez 88 wins in a row, just couldnt beat Henry Armstrong at a time when there were only 8 titles and one champ at each divison.
     
  2. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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  3. flamengo

    flamengo Coool as a Cucumber. Full Member

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    With out question, Langford.
    Charlie Burley was respected to the point of being dodged during the greatest period of the M/W era.
    Wills, as far as a legitimate mainstream title..
    Cleveland Williams, 10 years too late, or 15 years too early..??
    Golota, with any similation of a normal frame of mind, he may have been interesting

    The names are unlimited.
     
  4. mr_swagger

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    Herol Graham, Kirkland Laing, Michael Watson, Howard Eastman.

    Four excellent British fighters that fate seemed to conspire against.
     
  5. Loewe

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    Howard Eastman had his shot against Hopkins for the mw title, Graham had a shot against Brewer for the IBF smw title, Watson fought for the WBA mw title and two times for the WBO smw title.
    Pretty much bs so. Also none of them is really a great fighter.
     
  6. flamengo

    flamengo Coool as a Cucumber. Full Member

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    how is Michael Watson??? It must be 15 years or more since the Eubank fight??
     
  7. mr_swagger

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    Watson quite clearly beat Eubank in their first fight. He also pummelled him in the return only to be knocked out and almost killed in the return by probably the best punch Eubank ever threw.

    Graham hammered Julian Jackson who was moments away from being stopped before being ko'd by probably the single most devastating punch I have ever seen. He also lost a highly contentious decision to a prime Mike McCallum. He also lost by ko to Brewer having floored him and given him the fright of his life, despite Graham being old and well passed his best.

    Actually thought that Eastman fought Arthur Abraham for his title. Checked and it was an eliminator so fair enough.

    IMHO Graham was a great fighter. Fate was not kind to that man. He was also very much avoided. I read an interview with Eubank during his peak where he said that Graham was a genius and the only fighter with the skills to beat him.

    No doubt there are far more deserving people in the annals of boxing but I just stuck to what I know and have seen with my own eyes.
     
  8. the cobra

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    Langford is far and away the top choice. The man may well be the greatest fighter of all-time.

    Burley's a clear #2 IMO.

    There are numerous fighters who should have won world titles if given the chance.

    Jimmy Bivins, Lloyd Marshall, Holman Williams, Cocoa Kid, Eddie Booker, Packey McFarland, Harry Wills, Sam McVey, Joe Janeatte, Pedro Montanez, and the list just goes on.
     
  9. Loewe

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    Well the other fighters named didnßt even get a title shot. This isn´t about fighters who get a shot but didn´t win somehow but about fighters who didn´t even get a shot.
     
  10. RafaelGonzal

    RafaelGonzal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Actually I started the thread for the greatest fighters who because of fate, bad luck, **** decisons, or never getting a shot were never able to be world Champions.
     
  11. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Didn't Herol and Laing both win regional titles?
     
  12. Russell

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    Anyway, there are far more candidates here when there were only a set number of titles, as said above.

    Bennie Briscoe needs to be mentioned as well, anyway.
     
  13. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Peter Jackson of couse.
     
  14. COULDHAVEBEEN

    COULDHAVEBEEN Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I’ll put my biased Australian hat on and offer the 3 below:

    Tony Mundine (Snr) racked up a brilliant record only to run into a legend in Carlos Monzon. Mundine's 80 wins (64 KO), 15 losses (10 KO) and a draw record included more Australian titles than you could poke a stick at. He also won Commonwealth MW & LHW titles. In a different era he would certainly have won a world title.

    Hector Thompson's record of 73 wins (27 KO), 12 losses (7 KO) and 2 draws included Commonwealth & Australian titles. It took another legend in Roberto Duran to stop him from winning a world title.

    Paul Ferreri accumulated 78 wins (26 KO), 13 losses (2 KO) & 5 draws, and was Commonwealth champion for years & years (perhaps the longest of anyone), and only another legend in Carlos Zarate stopped him winning a world title.

    Since the advent of alphabet soup world titles many of them mean virtually nothing any more. In the days when the above 3 fought for world titles they really were WORLD TITLES!

    Monzon, Duran & Zarate were unfortunately absolutely top shelf fighters (for any era)!
     
  15. flamengo

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    "Lest We Forget"..... Dave Sands.