Greatest Heavyweight Of All Time At Their Peak

Perhaps, perhaps not. If he had, I'd certainly given him more consideration as the greatest HW at his peak.

 

Man, aren't you running out of monikers right about now?:smooch

Yeah, my bias is that I like primary sources like film and records. Crazy me.

 

Which actually was...

... this. And we agree.

Ps. I do think it would be interesting with a thread about the most admired in their own time.

 

Now you're mixing apples and oranges. I've never said that I prefer boxrec to contemprorary accounts of specific fights. I've actually leaned on such accounts when saying that Jeffries had a tough time with Fitz and Corbett. If there are available films, I of course prefer them to do the main talking, but otherwise I'm happy to listen to actual fight reports.

What I have been saying is that a fighter's record can be used to check claims like he would easily have beaten that one and that one etc, etc.

 

Talking about unreliable sources... This is the actual original exhange
on the thread question "Greatest Heavyweight Of All Time At Their Peak":

 

This is getting bizarre. I said that I prefer them to how observers subjectively asses a fighter:

I prefer them because they let me do the assesing myself. This is actually using primary sources instead of second hand ones.

So if someone tells me fighter x is the best ever, I prefer to look at the fighter's record and fights before making up my own mind, instead of just taking the person's word for it. I hope most historians work the same way.

 

Every discussion with McGrain ends up being bizarre. It's like a Ferris Wheel that's on a time loop. It looks like it never ends, but it's actually just going no where.

 

I think that distinction goes to Mike Tyson. He was groomed since a young age to eat, sleep, **** boxing. And his background and obvious physical advantages in speed and power, he was deemed at one point unbeatable.

Was Mike the greatest? No but during the height of his powers he was by far the most impressive.

From the moment he became champion, he left an impression that led to higher expectations than any other Heavyweight Champion before or after.