Greatest heavyweights since Joe Louis-

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Black2023, Jul 24, 2012.


  1. Black2023

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    By the way welcome back as it looks like your posting more-

    Few tips-

    Provide more analysis-

    Less smack talk to newbies and please dont troll anymore

    I reckon your points would be far better received-

    Take care
     
  2. jdempsey85

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    Rocky Marciano

    He never stopped no matter what, a real animal

    cant see vlad going 15 rounds with the rock
     
  3. Flea Man

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    Provide more analysis?!? Moi? :patsch You gotta' be ****ing shitting me?!

    And it's not newcomers I cuss, it's noobs talking absolute bollocks. Well, anyone talking ****. I guarantee there are many noobs that could tell you I praised then and encouraged them to post more. You just see what you want to see.

    EDIT: it's 'you're back' not 'your', sort it out.
     
  4. Flea Man

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    Can't see Marciano dealing with Wlad's humongous size and weight advantage. He'd get stopped IMO.
     
  5. Flea Man

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    Yeah, nice attempt at creating a username BTW, about 30 odd efforts IIRC.

    Anyway, Louis most probably. After him, Holmes probably, I consider the likes of Weaver, Snipes and 'Spoon to be underrated and the era overlooked in general. But then again he had some truly hairy moments, and could be outjabbed (Williams) and did have some seriously close ones.

    I rate his win over Mercer big time (badly wobbled by a ****ing jab though, admittedly a quality and heavy one) considering where he was at, no shame being blasted by Tyson but IMO, even though Mike Spinks is one of my absolute favourites, if the fight was happening next week and you asked me who would win I'd **** myself. Haven't rewatched the 2nd in a while but I felt Larry nicked it on last viewing, a few smart guys see it differently though so it requires a re evaluation I suspect. Remember feeling pretty strongly that Larry took that one though.

    Cooney was not the monster Legendary Nights made him out to be let's not kid ourselves there.

    What was his best scalp taking skillset, where they were at, how Larry performed and where he was in his career etc etc Would you say Norton?
     
  6. jdempsey85

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    After headbutts coming back up,thumbing,elbows and other little tricks
    wlad certainly wont be holding he' b on the run.

    The bigger they are the harder they fall. Carmine Vingo
     
  7. Flea Man

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    He'd get stopped before he really warmed up in my opinion. Wlad wouldn't need to 'run' either, his jab would be too much for even Marciano's pretty deft head movement to navigate and Wlad won't have to look to find his man, so he can get his big shot off if he gains enough confidence.
     
  8. jdempsey85

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    :lol:
     
  9. Manning

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    Probably the 4th best HW behind Louis, Ali and Lewis. He's top 5 anyway.
     
  10. Flea Man

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    Where's the :deal come from?

    When did Marciano ever face a heavyweight of Wlad's size and skill? While he faced some terrific punchers (and really terrific, Louis, Moore and Charles 3 of the greatest punchers of all time and Walcott had some beautiful form) Klitschko is a different beast. He is timid and rarely throws his best punch because of it (the left hook) but his size, force and form see him a genuinely harder puncher than anyone Marciano faced, if slower and not as cute.

    Your :lol: basically means you have nothing. Vingo? Get ****ed. Well over six foot but also well under the modern cruiserweight limit without weight cutting. Worst. Comparison. Ever.
     
  11. Flea Man

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    I have him top 5 as well but he's not the unbeatable super beast and sadly underappreciated champion some are still making him out to be.
     
  12. Manning

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    Agreed. Waldo likely ends the fight long before the 11th.
     
  13. JukeboxTimebomb

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    I don't think the Rock would beat Wlad, he's just to slow and his arms to short to be able to get quality punches off, its a stylistic nightmare for him. Wlad has a brilliant jab and commands the range very well, he's also totally against committing himself to attack now and will always be looking to retreat with his fast feet at the first hint of danger.
     
  14. Jay23

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    Im no expert on the history of the heavyweight division, so can anyone tell me where/if Foreman fits into the picture...?
     
  15. JeanPaulValley

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    Lennox Lewis? Yeah right. Ko'd twice in his prime.


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