Greatest Heavyweights who are not true Heavyweights?

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  1. the brown bomber

    the brown bomber Active Member Full Member

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    I know this list will have errors. I am just going off the top of my head. If you were to list the best Heavyweights who 1) came up from lower weights and 2) are not true heavyweights naturally. What would the list look like.

    1) Ezzard Charles. One time middleweight. He had multiple defenses of heavyweight belt.

    2) Floyd Patterson

    3) Evander Holyfield. I know it is hard to say he is not a true heavyweight. Still I think he was a natural cruiserweight who lifted his way to heavyweight?

    4) Gene Tunney

    5) Michael Spinks
     
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  2. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    dempsey could be thrown into the mix considering his size. marciano also
     
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  3. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    langford, moore and harold johnson as well. why not billy conn just for fun
     
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  4. RockyJim

    RockyJim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Remember....back then...being OVER 175 pounds made you a heavyweight...Marciano at 189 pounds made him a heavyweight...
     
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  5. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Sam Langford or Bob Fitzsimmons.

    Honorable mention, Choynski, Walker, Byrd.
     
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  6. Il Duce

    Il Duce Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In 1951, a restructuring of the weight division was proposed by the Times-Herald
    Newspaper.

    198+,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Superweights
    180 - 197 lbs.,,,Heavyweights
    166 - 179 lbs.,,,Light Heavyweights
    156 - 166 lbs.,,,Middleweights
    148 - 155 lbs.,,,Bomberweights
     
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  7. slugger3000

    slugger3000 You Mad Bro? Full Member

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    Evander holyfield.
     
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  8. Meast

    Meast New Member Full Member

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    Interesting. Bomberweights sound crazy
     
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  9. Foreman Hook

    Foreman Hook ☆☆☆ G$ora ☆☆☆ Full Member

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    Mikey Moorer :bbb
     
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  10. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ezzard Charles,Sam Langford and Rocky Marciano. Marciano was an all time top 5 heavy until the early 60's,imo. He's been well overtaken since then. Now,I'd rate him outside the top 10.
     
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  11. Onepunch

    Onepunch Prestigeous clincher Full Member

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    I would argue Marciano and Dempsey definitely.

    Probably contraversially, I would also say Frazier.. and possibly even Tyson.
    Despite their weight being within the Heavyweight category, their overall physical size means that current coaches and promoters would probably have urged them to cut like the majority of guys who walk around at their dimensions.
     
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  12. DonBoxer

    DonBoxer The Lion! Full Member

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    :lol: Your mental in the face.
     
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  13. DonBoxer

    DonBoxer The Lion! Full Member

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    Just to add , you do know Tyson was 200lbs at 17?
     
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  14. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    It really depends on the time period, despite their size Marciano/Dempsey rarely fought bigger men (an obvious 2 examples for Dempsey though)
     
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  15. Onepunch

    Onepunch Prestigeous clincher Full Member

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    Yup, and if you read my post I said I was aware of the weight.
    What I'm saying is, if their careers had started now, they would have been urged to cut as their height and size are incredibly small compared to some of the heavyweights coming up today.

    I am also aware that their size did not prevent them winning titles.

    Now either give some reasoning behind your answers or STFU
     
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