Greatest light heavys of the 20s compete in the 40s, what would change?

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  1. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    The 40s are often called the greatest light heavyweight era in boxing’s history, though this statement is challenged by those who think the 20s deserve that claim.

    How would the 40s change if the best light heavys of the 20s competed in the 40s? I’m thinking of names like Tunney, Loughran, GiBbons, Greb, Norfolk, Rosenbloom, Slattery, Stribling competing against the likes of Charles, Moore, Lesnevich, Marshall, Bivins, Mills, Christoforidis, Maxim….what would your top 10 in the division look like by the decade end?
     
  2. bolo specialist

    bolo specialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Possibly,
    1. Charles
    2. Moore
    3. Tunney
    4. Greb
    5. Loughran
    6. Bivins
    7. Norfolk
    8. Gibbons
    9. Marshall
    10. Maxim
     
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  3. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    That's about right though I would have Gibbons over Norfolk, even Bivins.
     
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  4. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    1. Charles
    2. Greb
    3. Tunney
    4. Moore
    5. Bivins
    6. Loughran
    7. T. Gibbons
    8. Marshall
    9. Norfolk
    10. Rosenbloom
     
  5. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Greb over the guy who beat him at least 3 times?
     
  6. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Whilst Greb was 1-3-1 vs Tunney, their their 2nd fight was widely considered a robbery and their 5th was contested at HW. At LHW, on fair scorecards, Greb likely deserves to be 2-1-1 vs Tunney. Not to mention Greb was past prime by the end of their series, though Gene likely green at the beginning.

    Their fights against each other aside, Greb has a vastly deeper win resume, though Tunney was otherwise unbeaten. I have Greb ahead at LHW by a hair, but have no major argument with someone having them the other way around.
     
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  7. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    You had me at Whilst.

    Let's look at Greb's best wins at 175:
    Jimmy Delaney (3x?)
    Maxie Rosenbloom
    Johnny Wilson (over the hill)
    Tunney (at least once)
    Jimmy Slattery
    Tiger Flowers (his win was above 160 technically)
    Tommy Loughran (x2)
    Tommy Gibbons (x2)
    Kid Norfolk (technically at HW by a couple pounds)
    Mike McTigue
    Battling Levinksy (x3)

    Tunney's best at 175:
    Greb (x3)
    Georges Carpentier
    Tommy Loughran
    Battling Levinsky
    Leo Houck

    Dang. I think you've convinced me.
     
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  8. Lonsdale81

    Lonsdale81 Member Full Member

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    Here's one for u.. Greb took on arguably 25-30% of the 20 best LHWs to ever grace the squared circle.. 23% of the top 30 & 20% of the top 50.. even more astonishing his overall numbers might have been even higher had bouts with Young Stribling & Jack Delaney not fallen through.. & Carpentier, Battling Siki and Paul Berlenbach wouldn't sign on the dotted line.. a reasonable tweak of a few decisions and Harry garners a 3-1/2-1-1 tally against Tunney and a 6-0/5-1 mark over Loughran.

    Greb is king.

    https://thegruelingtruth.com/boxing/ezzard-charles-harry-greb-light-heavyweight-perspective/