Greatest middle weight boxer of all time?

Aizen · Aug 3, 2024

Gotta go with Robinson. Beating the likes of Olson, Lamotta, Fullmer and Basilio is pretty damn impressive.

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Greb’s record throughout 1919 was worthy of HOF on it's own. In that year he beat 5 different HOFs 10 times. Went 52-0 in less than a year & a half. Try getting your greats to replicate that!
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I get that, but a lot of those fights weren't really at middleweight. I'm pretty sure they were mostly at Light Heavyweight right?

Salty Dog · Aug 3, 2024

Anubis said: ↑

Keep in mind that Michael Spinks weighed 170 for David Sears, just two bouts before Holmes I, and Jinx had Mackie Shilstone as his personal trainer. (Mackie also conditioned RJJ for Ruiz.) Because of that, Shilstone's "Lose Your Love Handles" is in my library.

There was briefly talk of Michael dropping back down to 170 for a HW Champion vs MW Champion match, but Marv quickly shut it off, saying "When I train, my weight goes right down."

I believe Hagler had the greatest chin of all time. Not only did he absorb monster shots, but AFTER his career, he learned Italian, became an action movie star in Italy, and completely ditched his heavy Newark accent for an Italian one. This is crazy neurological virtuosity.

At 175 or 190, I think Qawi gives any version of Ali headaches. The best counterjab I've ever seen could throw Muhammad off his rhythm, he was a master ring cutter, and an outside boxer by nature who had to learn to fight inside. With Ali, he wouldn't try to fight inside, and at 5'6-1/2" he'd be under Muhammad's punches.

How great a defensive fighter was Dwight? He was a mouth breather, a habit Quenzell McCall and Wesley Mouzon arrived to late to break, yet he never got his jaw fractured despite never taking a backwards step. (In their first couple of bouts, Johnny Davis had some early success hopping Dwight backwards with monstrous hooks. Qawi had an excellent rivalry with the Davis brothers. Michael Spinks also had to deal with them. Nobody came closer to defeating the Jinx at LHW than Eddie Davis, whose Kryptonite was actually Marvin Johnson, a monstrous puncher.)
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I haven't watched enough Dwight Qawi fights. I will do something about that.

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