Greatest Of All Time In More Than 1 Weight Class?

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  1. emallini

    emallini Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Does anybody have a viable claim to being the best ever in multiple weight classes? Robinson at 147 and 160 maybe?
     
  2. SuzieQ49

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    Joe Louis

    Cruiseweight and heavyweight
     
  3. SuzieQ49

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    Jose napoles is top 3 at 140 and 147
     
  4. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Maybe Greb at 160 and 175.

    Uhh Lopez at 105 and 108 (Lopez is not the best at 108 bit if we're asking...)

    Armstrong is top 3 at 126 and 147.
     
  5. Thread Stealer

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    I don't agree, but you can make the case for J.C. Chavez at 130 and 140. He's up there in both divisions.

    Interestingly he peaked at 135 against Rosario IMO

    You can argue for S.R. Robinson at 147 and 160.
     
  6. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    McCallum (154, 160).

    He beat an unbeaten Graham, unbeaten Collins, Watson (just beat an unbeaten Benn), arguably an unbeaten Toney twice and avenged Kalambay (who was seemingly unbeatable on points) defeat with a masterclass; mostly in opponents backyards. He's right up there at 160 in reality.
     
  7. mcvey

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    There's no argument, McCallum met Toney 3 times lost 2 and drew one
    McCallum, though a fine fighter has no basis for a claim as number one at 160lbs.
     
  8. Bulldog24

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    He won the first two Toney fights on most experts scorecards. The 3rd encounter was a chubby, fat, 45 year old in there...
     
  9. McGrain

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    Greb has a legitimate claim at MW and LHW.

    Robinson has a legitimate cliam at WW and MW.
     
  10. billy smith

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    Well one could add Joe Gans who perhaps was more welterweight yet fought mostly at lightweight cause welterweight didn't have the money to be made as it was a new division and didn't have the historical heritage as lightweight
    division Yet he fought Walcott and young Langford and a tough lightweight division
     
  11. mcvey

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    The only opinions that matter are those of the officials involved ,all three voted for Toney in their last fight ,2 in their second, the other official scored it a draw.
     
  12. burt bienstock

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    Ruby Bob Fitzsimmons as a MW who destroyed Non.Jack Dempsey and as a 165 lb LH who destroyed heavyweights such as Tom Sharkey, Peter Maher Jim Corbett, battered the much heavier Jim Jeffries, while old, might have beaten any LH in history when Fitz was YOUNG...Because of his heavyweight shoulders and lightweight lower torso, Fitz was described by John L Sullivan as "a man walking on stilts "...But when YOUNG and up to the age of about 32
    Ruby Robert might have beaten any MW and LH...Might very well have !
     
  13. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah I'm talking middleweight for McCallum, not cruiserweight...
     
  14. billy smith

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    Maybe Fitz hit a down-
    ward “spike” for an early weigh-in, then used the coming 24 hours to gain
    back pounds and enter the the ring over his official limit.
    He looked bigger then his weighr in some pics to me
    In his autobiography, Jim Jeffries said when he and Fitz worked together in training.
    Near the end of
    Jeffries’s career, after his exhibition bout with Jack Munroe, Jeff and Fitz went
    to a Turkish bath in Salt Lake City after one of their shows, they each weighed
    on the scales. Jeff was 235, Fitz 202.The men had not been inactive for a long
    period, since they had either fought or been at work together most of the
    past year. They went into the steam room for fifteen minutes and came out
    to cool off. Over the next few hours, they repeated the procedure five or six
    times. Afterward they slept into the forenoon, and on rising, Jeff wondered
    how much they might have lost. Jeff had lost 18 pounds, Fitz 24.
    maybe Fitz was little heavier by fightime
     
  15. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Those long ago days when fighters weighed in on the day of the fight, Fitz was always on target weight. Remember when Fitz fought some large HWTs he wasn't looking to deprive himself
    of a decent meal as he would have as a 160 pound MW or over...
    Old man Fitz was a most destructive chap in his younger days. Yessir...