Greatest P4P fighter of all time?

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  1. Dunks

    Dunks Absolute Grandmaster Full Member

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    If Roy Jones Jr beats Calzaghe and BHop then retires will he go down as the greatest P4P fighter of all time????:huh
     
  2. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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  3. DINAMITA

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    No, because he will do neither of these things. And even if he did, his resume still wouldn't be strong enough to be considered the GOAT.

    RJJ from 1994-96 at 168 was the closest thing ever to an invincible fighter, he was that good h2h IMO, but he is not in the top 10 pound-for-pound best and even if he beat Calzaghe and Hopkins he still wouldn't be.

    But he couldn't anyway. Roy is shot.
     
  4. EL-MATADOR

    EL-MATADOR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    SFPLAYBOY415 Contender Full Member

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    No...just a great victory
     
  6. beatsy

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    natas206 Crazy Tiger Kim Full Member

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    If he beats Calzaghe, then Hopkins, then Dawson, then Vitali Klitschko and his sister Wlad, goes back down and beats Kessler, Pavlik and then Abraham. Then YES, ATG
     
  8. Dunks

    Dunks Absolute Grandmaster Full Member

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    and your reasoning is?
     
  9. Dunks

    Dunks Absolute Grandmaster Full Member

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    and why is he the GOAT? he lost 19 times
     
  10. natas206

    natas206 Crazy Tiger Kim Full Member

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    Isn't it obvious? How can Jones, beating 36 year old Calzaghe then 43/44 hopkins again, make him surpass the greats of Sugar Ray Robinson, Ali, Duran, Willie Pep, etc.??????????
     
  11. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    As PACFAN said it won't happen.But IF this ludacris thing happens it still won't make his resume that good.
     
  12. natas206

    natas206 Crazy Tiger Kim Full Member

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    Dude, he fought over 200 fights. He was 73–1 by the time he was 25. At one point he was 128-1-2 with 85 KO's!!! Most of his losses were after he was old.

    Here this will put it more into perspective:
    As a professional Robinson compiled one of the greatest records in boxing history going on a run of 128-1-2 with 84 knockouts while winning the world’s welterweight and middleweight championships. Robinson won his first 40 pro fights before losing a decision to middleweight Jake Lamotta whom he beat 5 of 6 times. He then went on a 91 bout-winning streak. He had no peer for more than decade that included a span of 8 years unbeaten. Of the 76 welterweights he faced he knocked out 50 (34 in 4 rounds or less) of the 24 middleweights he knocked out 11.

    His competition is possibly the best in boxing history fighting 18 world champions and defeating 10 Hall of Famers including; Sammy Angott, Fritzie Zivic, Henry Armstrong, Kid Gavilan, Jake LaMotta, Randy Turpin, Rocky Graziano, Bobo Olson, Carmen Basilio, and Gene Fullmer. Robinson was undefeated as welterweight champion from 1946-1951. He was a 5 time middleweight champion. He achieved a final official record of 175-19-6 2 NC with 109 kayo’s. 16 of his 19 losses came after his first comeback at age 34, 12 after the age of 40. In a professional career with over 200 fights he was never physically knocked out, failing only to last the distance one time when he collapsed from heat exhaustion while leading the fight against Joey Maxim in vying for the light-heavyweight title.
     
  13. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    So because he lost 19 times he isn't the best p4p?Then look at how many times he won and against who?
     
  14. scousedave

    scousedave Member Full Member

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    no but if Calzaghe beats RJJ then he should go down as the greatest of all time!!