Greatest southpaw heavyweight of all time?

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  1. KINGWILDER

    KINGWILDER Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I meant if we are including switch hitters as southpaws - if we are not than clearly Fury is not among the best (as purely a southpaw).

    Luis Ortiz is not really relevant here - one win against a solid contender in Jennings doesn’t make you a great heavyweight. He could have been had he started his pro career earlier, but I’ve always felt he’s been vastly overrated to prop up Wilder’s resume. He was at one stage a legit top 5 guy, but that doesn’t make you among the best southpaws ever.

    I rate Usyk, Byrd, and Moorer higher based on their respective skill sets and achievements. I think the Sanders that blasted out Wlad and gave Vitali hell is a better fighter as well.
     
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  2. mrbigshot

    mrbigshot Active Member Full Member

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    Fury confused opponents with southpaw stance since there are currently no full time southpaws with a fury like reach - so his opponents struggle to adapt when facing fury . The fact he can change stance confuses even more .

    The only unbelievable exception is ngannou . He stood partially southpaw in 3rd and fury never expected to eat such a hammer out of a southpaw stance from left hand .

    Any other current southpaw does not have the reach and especially not the force do deliver such a punch . So Fury kissed the canvas .
     
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  3. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Uysk of course.
     
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  4. Bigcheese

    Bigcheese Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If AJ was a southpaw it would be him quite clearly. So even though his heavyweight resume is thin it's gotta be Usyk right?
     
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  5. KINGWILDER

    KINGWILDER Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not sure I agree with this, Usyk is clearly a superior boxer and Moorer has better career achievements.
     
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  6. Bigcheese

    Bigcheese Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sorry, I meant that Usyk is clearly a better fighter than AJ. I do however, consider AJ to have a better resume than the other sourhpaws mentioned.
     
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  7. Ice8Cold

    Ice8Cold Still raging that we didnt see Bowe V Lewis Full Member

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    Best HW southpaw of all time? I'd have to say Usyk. You could say Fury as he is a switcher but Usyk is a true southpaw, if Fury does beat Usyk fighting southpaw then I'd say you have a good argument that Fury is the clear winner here.

    After Usyk, (Fury), I'd say Michael Moorer.
     
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  8. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Chris Byrd.
     
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  9. catchwtboxing

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    Moorer went life and death with Cooper, lost to a 45 year old Foreman, lost to Eliseo Castillo, and his great "accomplishment" of beating Holy came from the fact that Holy was having a heart attack and experiencing organ failure. And he still needed some dodgy judging.

    It shocks me that anyone could pick him. He was a classic "lightening in a bottle" fighter.
     
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  10. KINGWILDER

    KINGWILDER Well-Known Member Full Member

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    True and valid points, but he did notch some solid wins against the Bonecrusher, Schulz(very close fight), Botha, he was fortunate in the Holy fight with the judging but still I always felt he was a very solid boxer and becoming a two time heavyweight world champion is an impressive feat. He competed in a very deep era as well. In a h2h contest though I think Usyk would have stopped him.
     
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  11. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sure pal.
     
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  12. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Barring Byrd getting beaten a load of times and not having as many quality wins as Usyk. Byrd's record is vastly inferior and this will remain true even if Fury beats him.
     
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  13. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    John Ruiz SD Chagaev and Ray Austin draw Ibragimov were not even close to Usyk. Absurd to even mention them. At least Byrd made Vitali quit.
     
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    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's also questionable how Byrd would have done in Usyk's cruiser division. Does he repeat Usyk's 7-0 championship run, all on the road? I seriously doubt it. Whereas I see Usyk comfortably beating everyone Byrd beat and more.
     
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  15. Forza

    Forza Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    byrd and usyk
     
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