Greatest Title Reign of All Time

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  1. TAC602

    TAC602 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't know, but it's a deplorable albeit humorous little ****, isn't it? In this instance, it means Ottke's style is do-do. No good. Ass.
     
  2. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    I get it.:good

    Thanks for explanation.
     
  3. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    Many people underrate the great armenian destroyer nowdays:lol:
     
  4. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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  5. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Brian Mitchell fought for/defended the belt 12 times, never lost a title fight and never fought for it in his home country. That's pretty bad ass.
     
  6. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Fokin' A, S. :deal
     
  7. Tin_Ribs

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    Do you take into account non-title fights won against notable opponents during a champions reign, even via newspaper decision? Because if you do, I'm having a hard time looking past Gans or Benny when you consider how they faced the likes of Holly, Blackburn, Kid Lewis, Britton, Walcott, White, Ritchie, Dundee etc on top of the likes of Tendler, Herman, Kansas, Erne, McFadden, Welsh, Mitchell etc. Obviously Louis has the legendary run of defences that rightly stand out, as do Moore/Pep/Armstrong etc to a lesser extent, but their levels of dominance and longevity are tempered by Leonard's and Gans' equally attained levels of dominance over greater fighters even if their longevity doesn't quite match that of either Louis or Moore. The same for someone like Greb in terms of his quality of comp and non-title fight victories.

    I've posted enough on here before about Ortiz and Saldivar, so I won't go overboard save for saying - again - that their respective reigns in the 60's impress me as much as any other title tenure after the war. I think Jofre's run is underestimated in terms of how good his opposition was, if not how dominant he was: Sanchez, Caldwell, Medel, Aoki, Caraballo, Marques, Jamito and Rollo plus good non-title wins over Yaoita and Peacock plus going neck and neck with Harada isn't at all shabby, though we could do with knowing a bit more about some of them for the sake of greater clarity. I reckon his stock has actually risen a bit since the recent gradual emergence of the footage that isn't of either Harada nor Medel in the sense that it's given us more of an opportunity to see what a nuanced and honed pressuring boxer-puncher he actually was, even in old age. There also seems to have been a wider ascendence of Medel's reputation that rightfully belies his inconsistent record. Jofre's wins over him are very big in the context of the divisions history imo.

    As far as Zarate's reign goes, he cops too much unjust flack for supposedly poor opposition despite thoroughly beating down excellent types such as Davila, Martinez, Zamora and Ferreri in the way that he did. I'd also like to see Elorde get more credit for the way he jointly controlled both the 60's super feather scene and and the underrated pan pacific lightweight scene for so long, especially when he smoked and drank his bollocks off half of the time. He'd be more appreciated I think had cuts not foiled him when he was so close to crossing the line in Saddler II and Ortiz I.

    Old Bones Brown, Manuel Ortiz, Cervantes, Chandler and Perez all had top notch runs too that get lost under the mountains of praise for Duran, Monzon and Hagler. And Canto somehow managed keep a stranglehold on one of the toughest flyweight era's ever despite the physical mismatches he was so often in, whereas the man who eventually dethroned him had the physical dimensions and talent to rule perhaps even more convincingly and yet never did so.
     
  8. red cobra

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    :rofl:rofl
     
  9. DonBoxer

    DonBoxer The Lion! Full Member

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    Monzon all day long.