Greatest Trainers FAILS?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by FromWithin, Aug 21, 2009.


  1. brood3

    brood3 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't blame Manny at all for Taylors downfall. Steward was just the wrong trainer for Taylor.Emanuel Steward is an old school trainer. Old school trainers don't change fighters. Especially if the fighter was successful before. They concentrate on a fighters strengths and try to improve it. They don't try to add to a fighters arsenal, because their afraid its gonna screw them up.

    Taylors handlers should have realized that he needed to change. His footwork was sloppy and his fighting stance screamed "knock me out". He never ran to a fighter that could exploit it until Pavlik.
    What Taylor needed was a trainer that is willing to change a fighter like Freddie Roach, and Nazim Richardson.
     
  2. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    the thread should of ended here

    its as though some casual boxing fan was in Pavlik's corner that night
     
  3. brood3

    brood3 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Naw Pavlik could have had Angelo Dundee in his corner that night and it wouldn't have made a difference.
     
  4. Charlie

    Charlie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Buddy Mcgirt by a country ****ing mile, that guy cant train ****, as a cornerman hes clueless, a complete ****ing novice if i ever saw one.
     
  5. R.B.J

    R.B.J Active Member Full Member

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    I was listening to Manny on a Detroit radio stations a few years ago, he stated that he walked into Tommys dressing room before the Hagler fight and was stunned to see a groupie massaging Tommys legs. He said that massages relax your muscles, and Tommy had no choice but to rush Hagler and try to knock him out, because he wouldn't be able to box for more than 3 rounds. The initial strategy was for Tommy to get on his bike and jab his way to a victory.
     
  6. UFgators

    UFgators Active Member Full Member

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    Alcazar and Gil Glancy telling Oscar to run against Tito.
     
  7. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pepe Correa telling Lennox Lewis to "forget everything I've taught you, just knock the guy out!" against MCall. :patsch
     
  8. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    The story is that DLH's corner told him to stay away.

    However, you watch DLH's corner between rounds toward the end, at least the version that HBO showed when the fight was broadcast, and all you hear is Clancy saying "box, box, box" and Alcazar tells Oscar "make sure they know you won the round".