Greatest victories ever?

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  1. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hagler's win over Hearns is the greatest performance in boxing history. the most impressive followed by Douglas over Tyson. who could forget that?
     
  2. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    People don't seem to have gotten the criteria I was meaning, I probably wasn't clear enough. To be more clear I'm mostly meaning by good is how few fighters (of the same size) could replicate that win. I don't really want to include ones just for being big upsets, because it effectively penalises fighter for being well regarded before hand. I don't really want to count things like Foreman-Moorer, where the impressiveness is largely from the state of the winner. To me anyway that's kind of something else. But I get that's very arbitrary, so if you don't want to go along with that fair enough
     
  3. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    I thought u were looking in the prime dept. Or even up. My bad
     
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  4. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    -Henry Armstrong beating Lou Ambers
    -Willie Pep beating Sandy Saddler
    -Spinks beating Braxton
    -Hopkins beating Trinidad
     
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  5. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I can't wait to see a list of your favorite foods.
     
  6. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Only one I would have added would have been Foreman beating Moorer. Won’t even try to rank them nice list
     
  7. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How so?
     
  8. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Can you name a better prime/near-prime heavyweight than Louis who got crushed like that?
     
  9. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well, what Buster Douglass did to Mike Tyson was something else also.
     
  10. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Yep. I'd give the edge to Schmeling because Louis was better than Tyson, IMO.
     
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  11. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Moore 60 8 5 Burley 61 9 2
    "1944 was to be a good year for Charley which saw him stop the excellent Jack Chase to win the California middleweight title. His first challenger for the title was to be the great Archie Moore, the rumour is Charley considered Moore to be arrogant and it certainly appeared he cared little for Archie dumping him on the canvas three times en route to a 10 round shut out that perhaps represented the biggest beating of Archie’s career. On the back of this beating Archie was certainly in no doubt about Charley’s ability saying in later years the following:
    “If anyone was the perfect fighter it was Burley. When I fought Burley, I was no greenhorn. I’d had nearly 80 fights at the time. Burley was already a legend. He could feint you crazy with his eyes, shoulders, head, even his pectoral muscles. If you threw a punch at Charley Burley, you had better hit him; if you didn’t he would counter your head off. Hitting Burley with a solid punch was near impossible”
    No small praise when coming from a fighter of over 200 fights whose record is a genuine who’s who of his era. It should also be noted at this point that Moore was not the only one to be so fulsome in his praise of Burley, legendary trainer Eddie Futch and all-time great heavyweight Joe Louis were also members of the Burley fan club."

    Archie Moore vs. Charley Burley
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    1944-04-21 : Charley Burley 155 lbs beat Archie Moore 161 lbs by PTS in round 10 of 10
    • Location: Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, USA
    "Charley Burley, Philadelphia, California middleweight champion, won 9 of 10 rounds tonight to decision Archie Moore, San Diego. Burley sent Moore to the canvas for a five count in the 1st, an eight count in the 3rd and a seven count in the 4th. The State champ had Moore groggy in the 10th but could not put him away." -United Press

    • In the report filed by the Los Angeles Times, Burley was said to have dropped Moore 4 times during the bout. Rounds 1, 3, 4 and also in the 8th round by a jab for a short count.
    • Gambling rumors were rife before this bout that Moore had this bout won.
     
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  12. JohnThomas1

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    Louis fought at a noticeably higher level post Schmeling. We can say he was prime for sure but he was definitely not peak.
     
  13. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    That's true. I still think he was close enough to his best that the victory means more than Douglas beating Tyson, based upon the fighters he'd beaten already.
     
  14. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Digging deeper Louis wasn't even the world champ yet. Tyson had 9 defenses of the crown he won from Berbick behind him including two (almost immediate) unification's and a later slaying of the lineal champ. He was far more established.

    I have to side the other way. Tyson was ridiculously proven among his peers and thought by many to be invincible hence the huge odds. Louis was a big fave too but not like Tyson.