Greb vs langford somewhere between middleweight and heavyweight

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  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Who takes this and why?

    Two of the greatest boxers in history taking each other on at their prime weights in their prime?
     
  2. TartanSoldier

    TartanSoldier Barnburner. Full Member

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    No footage of Greb makes this match-up impossible to answer.

    Going purely on reading, I think Greb takes a close UD tough.
     
  3. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    **** you for this question:tong

    i'll leave better minds than mine to debate and discuss. I look forward to watching it unfold though
     
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  5. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fitzsimmons jumps in and KOs both.
     
  6. KOTF

    KOTF Bingooo Full Member

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    Why not just make it at LHW
     
  7. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Well that's between middleweight and heavyweight. I leave it vague because there is no guarantee that even at lightheavy both these would come in at 175, could be in the 60's.

    Personally I think langford loses the first match on points then ko's greb in a rematch
     
  8. Surf-Bat

    Surf-Bat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I love Greb, but no middleweight or Light-Heavyweight in history survives the blows of a prime Sam Langford, imo.
     
  9. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Dead on the money, as long as we don't count the ones who did.
     
  10. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I hear you there, but Jeff Clark, you know? The signs are there that the right man could do it.
     
  11. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    For what it's worth !
    Nat Fleischer ,editor of the Ring Magazine ,in response to this question in his Question Box.
    "In what round do you think Sam Langford would "catch-up" to Harry Greb, and kayo Greb?
    His response was : "I don't think that Sam Langford, would ever catch up to Harry Greb.and kayo him "!. This answer coming from Nat Fleischer who was a great admirer of the Boston Tar Baby. In about 275 consecutive bouts, no one was able to catch up to the
    flying, Bouncing Pittsburgh Windmill. As Gene Tunney was quoted"Greb was never in the same spot for more than a half-second ", and you couldn't time him "...For what it's worth!
    You can't kayo,what you can't hit ! And so with Sam Langford. And if perchance, Greb was occasionally tagged, Harry had the whiskers, and the legs to get out of any dangerous situation. His record proves this time and again !!!
     
  12. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Addendum---Shouldn't the question be Langford and Greb at similar weights ??? Against two immortals they should come in at equal weights for this match ...
     
  13. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I would have to pick Langford eventually to catch him...but he would have to set a trap to do it. Given what I think Greb's style to be...he would trouble Langford and possibly outpoint him. Have to go with Langford though. A total guess...
     
  14. Surf-Bat

    Surf-Bat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jeff Clarke was able to start taking Sam the distance and giving him problems as Sam began to age and training and focus began to vary from fight to fight (add his disillusionment with not being able to get any title shot after so many years as a factor as well). Their 1916 bout, which Langford won by knockout, is more indicative of how a prime, focused and trained Langford does on his best night against the best of Jeff Clarke every time.

    My point is that it all depends on which Langford shows up. Much like, to give it a modern slant, it was which version of James Toney showed up to his fights.

    On his best night I can't see any middle or LHs surviving him. Maybe I should have worded it that way:)
     
  15. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Langford has nowhere near as good a ko record against middleweights as he does against heavies. At middleweight, Greb wins the decision. He is too hard to hit. Though at unlimited weights, Langford comes right back into the equation. I think he should win at the heavier weight.