Greb vs Louis. What type of chance does Greb have?

Louis can both box and punch. I still think Greb would have given him more trouble then he was looking for.

JACK BLACKBURN ADMITTED THIS ONE NIGHT IN CHICAGO!!!!

Grantland Rice

http://news.google.com/newspapers?i...&pg=6081,7271338&dq=greb+jack-blackburn&hl=en

 

Thanks for posting this Slakka. The only exception I take is the author's "He could never handle Tiger Flowers" comment. This is the sort of thing that starts the myth machine churning and distorts the facts for future generations (and indeed HAS).

All three Greb-Flowers bouts were tightly-contested, with Greb arguably deserving two of the verdicts. Actually, the third bout caused a bit of an uproar not totally unlike Greb-Tunney II. Even Gene Tunney, who was friend with both Greb and Flowers, called the verdict "unjust".

 

Rice is probably right.

Nobody here gives a more favourable assesment of Joe Louis than me, but I still think that Greb would have given him fits!

 

By 1926 Hary Greb was so old blind and unable to make "sixty" his title got away from him.

 

Well Gene Tunney always said this guy was "the craftiest" fighter of all I met and to Gene Tunney I say

"Buddy yer lucky you got into the ring with him in 1924 he was well past his best"

 

Slakka, are the stories about Greb true?? They say his mother is an immortal goddess. They say he cant be killed..

 

Now yer stuck with Jack Blackburn praising Grebs chances vs Louis and Ali praising Gene Tunney as a White Ali!

 

great stuff...Thx for posting this.

 

Jack Dillon

 

If only we had even one piece of film evidence on Greb in action to better answer this debate. I'm only speculating here but I think Conn and Greb were very different in style. Conn was very mobile in his fight with Louis and circled a lot from the outside...similar to the way Tunney fought Dempsey...thus not letting Louis get set to punch. I'm guessing that's not the way Greb fought..I'm thinking more along the lines of Henry Armstrong stylewise..Come in charging with fists flying from all angles (and head as well) never getting tired and discouraging your opponent all the while shaking off whatever comes at you. At least that's how I envision Greb and that's why I pick Louis by mid round KO. Greb would be a royal pain in the ass for a few rounds against Joe but eventually Joe would catch him and nail him and end it. Louis at his best (Baer/SchmelingII) was the perfect fighting machine and Conn would've been koed alot earlier against that version of Joe as well.

 

I dont think that is a good comparison.

Greb seems to have morphed between being a swarmer and a technical boxer at will.

 

Jeff Smith

 

He was more of an evasive pressure fighter. Blizzards of punches, in and out, side to side, spin you around, more blizzards, dance away, keep you off balance and unable to get set....more like a cross between Armstrong(pressure), Ray Leonard (speed), Willie Pep(evasive footwork), Marvin Hagler(iron jaw) and Aaron Pryor(unpredictable punching angles).

At least that's what I've gleaned from all the research I've done on him. All newspaper and eyewitness accounts on his style are remarkably consistent from the start of his career to the finish.