Greb/Walker vs Hagler

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by SerbianLoudmouth, Aug 11, 2020.


Greb/Walker vs Hagler

  1. Greb wins,Walker lose

    4 vote(s)
    25.0%
  2. Greb lose,Walker win

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Greb/Walker loss

    7 vote(s)
    43.8%
  4. Greb/Walker win

    5 vote(s)
    31.3%
  5. Draw?

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. SerbianLoudmouth

    SerbianLoudmouth Overhand right-Suzie Q Full Member

    1,258
    744
    May 3, 2019
    Who would win here?
    I pick Greb to beat Hagler by Ud and Walker to draw with Hagler?
     
    George Crowcroft likes this.
  2. christpuncher

    christpuncher Active Member banned Full Member

    699
    529
    Jul 31, 2019
    Hagler UD's both. Prime Hagler could do anything.
    The only thing he lacked a little bit was size, (which his reach pretty much overcame), that isn't a problem for him against these two.
     
  3. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,547
    9,575
    May 30, 2019
    Greb would outwork him, Walker vs Hagler would be a great sophisticated brawl.
     
    SerbianLoudmouth likes this.
  4. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    18,105
    15,587
    Dec 20, 2006
    Hagler UD over Walker...I will skip the Greb pick and leave it to those who have watched more of his fights than I have.
     
  5. christpuncher

    christpuncher Active Member banned Full Member

    699
    529
    Jul 31, 2019
    Greb doesn't touch him
     
  6. BCS8

    BCS8 VIP Member

    60,800
    81,108
    Aug 21, 2012
    On pedigree, Greb > both of them.
     
  7. Eddie Ezzard

    Eddie Ezzard Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,494
    5,255
    Jan 19, 2016
    Given how little footage there is, that'd be nobody then. Unless there are still a few old timers who watched him live that might want to share their wisdom!

    I think you're right to duck out, Philly. We can't make any kind of comment based on the footage, or lack of, that we have. One thing that I will say, though, is that a lot is made of Greb and Walker's hard-living lifestyles, drinking and womanising. There's an old quote, and I don't know where I read it so, apologies. but I hope someone else can verify it. It said: "Greb did his roadwork running up the stairs of the brothels from the saloon."

    Those who favour old timers laugh this off and just say, well, he was that tough and that great he could do that. I personally think if he had been up against an elite, skilled fighter who lived and trained like a monk before fights, Greb would have soon realised he couldn't train like that. My suspicion is that the well-trained and conditioned athlete beats the living daylights out of him and sends him back to his own era where you could get away with training like you were headlining Oktoberfest because the sport was still in its infancy and the opposition was limited.
     
    Man_Machine and PhillyPhan69 like this.
  8. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,547
    9,575
    May 30, 2019
    Since when Hagler was more elusive than Tunney or Loughran?
     
  9. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,476
    9,495
    Oct 22, 2015
    Unless they have a secret stash of film , or a time machine, you've probably seen as much film on Greb as anyone else..... And that's my problem with fighters from that era. No film or depending on the writings of long passed on reporters and corner men that probably didn't see Robinson at Middleweight, much less Hagler.
    Personally, I believe if what I've read is true about Grebs and Walkers fighting styles, they'd be tailor made for Hagler, and he would cut them in half.
     
    Man_Machine likes this.
  10. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,547
    9,575
    May 30, 2019
    You can watch enough of Mickey Walker, who fought against much bigger men than Hagler. Stop with this hyperbole - Walker looks great on film and he beat HWs.
     
    RockyJim, BCS8 and louis54 like this.
  11. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

    27,131
    44,903
    Mar 3, 2019
    What I've read about Greb's style sounds like an ultra-powered version of Vito. He didn't exactly cut him in half.
     
    BCS8, PhillyPhan69, Flash24 and 2 others like this.
  12. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,717
    8,944
    Nov 21, 2009
    They both stop Hagler. Mickey with body punches and Greb on cuts after truly driving Hagler crazy and kicking his asss thoroughly
     
  13. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,717
    8,944
    Nov 21, 2009
    And Marvin does NOT want a rematch with either
     
  14. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,476
    9,495
    Oct 22, 2015
    Theirs no "Hyperbole " friend. Just calling it the way I see it.
     
  15. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

    61,721
    46,400
    Feb 11, 2005
    What jumbled, bumbling mess of a way to present a poll...

    Greb outbusies Hagler (70%) or gets clipped, loses his front foot edge and gives up a decision (30%)

    Walker gets thoroughly drubbed, if not stopped.