Greb's Peak Fighting Weight

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  1. Gudetama

    Gudetama Active Member Full Member

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    What would be Harry Greb's absolute peak fighting weight, if he needed to weigh in within 24 hours of fighting time, and had, say... 1960s rules and referees?
     
  2. Devon

    Devon Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    with before day weigh ins like now he would be making 140lbs and 147lbs
     
  3. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Out of curiosity, why 1960s ?
     
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  4. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Hagiographer Full Member

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    I suspect given his style a massive weight cut would be a bad idea, and he didn't have the easiet time making 160Ibs.
     
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  5. ChrisJS

    ChrisJS Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He’d be at his best as a super middleweight in modern weight classes
     
  6. janitor

    janitor Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If we transported the current weight classes into his era, then he would have found 168lbs very well suited to him.
     
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  7. BCS8

    BCS8 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    With today's weigh in rules he might even make 154. I suspect he'd be a natural 160lber.
     
  8. WAR01

    WAR01 In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Rocky vs Greb at SMW no, Harry belongs at welter in the modern era.
     
  9. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Greb might have made 154 but he wouldnt have gotten down any lower. He was very stocky and had to kill himself to make 160. He was much more comfortable just coming in at his best weight and fighting bigger guys rather than trying to cut weight to gain a perceived advantage over smaller guys. That wouldnt have changed even in this era. Greb's game was built around speed and endurance. Killing yourself to make weight wouldnt help that.
     
  10. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    168...SMW...he fights Canelo and slaps him silly for 12 rounds, but loses a wide UD.
    He couldn't KO Canelo, and that's basically the ONLY way Canelo loses anymore.
     
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  11. Gudetama

    Gudetama Active Member Full Member

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    Sometimes when I compare eras, I think it fairest to do a halfway house, rather than giving complete advantage regarding rules, refs, gloves, etc.
    So when I consider Greb vs today's boxers, I imagine it taking place maybe late 60s.
     
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  12. George forearm

    George forearm The forearm of George Full Member

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    I don't think greb could fight in the 60s because of how filthy he faught he'd get DQ'd every second fight
     
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  13. janitor

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    I think that he was a smart dirty fighter.

    By that I mean one who knew how to do it to his advantage.
     
  14. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Hagiographer Full Member

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    How many times was he dq'd in nearly 300 fights?
     
  15. DanDaly

    DanDaly Active Member Full Member

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    They didn't create 24 hour weigh ins for fighters to start cutting weight to make the limit. They started them to create a safer environment for fighters to rehydrate and come into the ring not completely drained and more susceptible to injury related to dehydration. In other words, fighters have been cutting weight since the beginning of modern boxing and weighing in a bit dehydrated. This was because they would weigh in in the morning and fight at night from what I understand.

    I'd say 140 is completely out of the question and that 147 is more realistic. But probably for not very long. I could see Greb fighting from 154-160 for a really long time.
     
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