Green needs to be dropped from the RINGS 168 top ten

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  1. christo

    christo Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    based on what?
     
  2. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Green has to fight ham and eggers who can neither box nor brawl. Emmett Linton used counter punching and cute-slick boxing to out fox Green for 10 rounds. Unfortunately the home cookin' took over, and the judges gave Green the nod.

    Miranda used his brawling/physical style to beat hell out of Green. Miranda needed another 30 seconds in the 10th to finish Green. Had it been a 12 round fight, Edison would have got the KO.

    Like I said, if you put Green in with anyone who can box, or anyone who can brawl, he's in deep ****. Zuniga would knock Green the **** out. Sergio Mora would clown him for 10 rounds, 12 rounds, 29 rounds, whatever!
     
  3. Landshark

    Landshark Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Don't know about that Boo, you might be pushing it.:think
     
  4. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    At 160 Mora UD12 Green, wide.
     
  5. Brit Sillynanny

    Brit Sillynanny Cold Hard Truth Full Member

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    I'd take Mora by KO at 147


    lol



    Green would dominate Zuniga and Mora like they were nobodies. Complete mismatch.


    I can sort of see your way when you do your Pavlik/Abraham rant but you're going overboard now.
     
  6. Hermit

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    I'd guess his connection with Dibella got him the standby status. Just watched his fight from Friday. Not too impressive.

    Finito's latest alias defunct also? I haven't seen anyone hyping that win.
     
  7. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Green is on the same level with Brinkley and Manfredo. Zuniga would spark Green's candy ass, and Mora would box his ears off. Are you trying to tell me that Zuniga and Mora couldn't beat part time boxer/full time truck driver Emmett Linton? Green couldn't, and that was BEFORE he lost to Miranda. After that loss Green turned into a heartless, gutless, chinless joke!
     
  8. Flatlander

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    Not sure where all the hate for Alan Green is coming from. The man has everything it would take to compete with anyone at his weight. Miranda wouldn't have stood a chance against a healthy Green. The only reason Green hasn't been called to fight the other top guys is because they fear his power.
     
  9. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    What the hell are you talking about? Green probably holds the all time record for backing out of big fights. THAT is why he doesn't get the calls.
     
  10. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    :roll:
     
  11. JoeAverage

    JoeAverage Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    His ghetto-persona has made him a place in the Ring top 10.

    True - he has never meta top 20 fighter so we don't know anything about Green. The only one he has met was Miranda who was perhaps around no. 10.

    He can beat someone in top 10 I think, but the SS tourney seems to be just above Green's level. In order to say exactly if it is or not he will have to actually agree to fight a top 10 fighter.
     
  12. Brit Sillynanny

    Brit Sillynanny Cold Hard Truth Full Member

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    Are you really arguing that one performance can describe or depict an entire athletic career? If a pitcher or a quarterback loses one game or even has one bad year would that mean they were never any good and have more meaning than the rest of the performances in their career?

    How do you apply that thinking to Kelly Pavlik then? He lost to an old, old man. A 44-year old shut him out in his prime when he had an eighteen year youth advantage.

    Green can hardly be a heartless, gutless, chinless joke if he has never been KO'd. Or is Zuniga a considerably bigger heartless, gutless, chinless joke?

    Green could wear a blind fold and beat both Brinkley and Manfredo simultaneously. Zuniga could be shut out and Mora would possibly be simply stopped.

    Green getting dropped by Linton is a clear case of taking a bum too lightly. Many athletes have played down to the level of their comp for a period of time and/or not trained with the same intensity due to being unable to perceive the opponent as a credible threat.

    I think you're going overboard on Green for some inexplicable reason. You've got Lopez as your avatar. I grew up in the 60s and have watched more of his fights than almost anyone on these boards. I got to California in '68 and used to go with my father to the Olympic Auditorium in Los Angeles all the way through the mid-70s and have seen several of his fights live (caught guys like Mike and Jerry Quarry as well and fights at the Forum too - also Ali/Frazier I). I think you need to let Green have a few matchups against the best at 168 before you can dismiss him. He has been having trouble getting the big fights. That is usually a sign that he isn't terrible. Bums get unearned immediate title shots against guys like Arthur Abraham, as an example. If Green was terrible surely someone with a belt would take the easy fight at 168 and add him to their ledger - because that is what pro boxing is about - padding your record and making easy money.

    Remember Green doesn't have the luxury of having his own private referee, back pocket judges, and leaning administrators/officials like some at 168 - both past AND present.
     
  13. Flatlander

    Flatlander Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nice post
     
  14. fatcity

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    The politics of boxing and contacts are the only reason how Green would be mentioned as a possible fill in.Deserved?No way.
     
  15. fitzgeraldz

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    Green isn't all that good ... I wonder why he's been in the game so long and has never had a championship fight ... and his only loss came outside of his home state of OK ...

    I don't think he would do well against anyone in the super six ... he would get knocked out by those guys ... there's no doubt in my mind ... he declined to fight Andre Ward and Andre Dirrell ... so why would they put him in the super six? ... he's never accomplished anything ... Dirrell and Ward are former world class amateur champions - Jermain Taylor is a former world class amateur champion and former undisputed middleweight champion ... Abraham just vacated a belt ... and Froch/Kessler already have belts.

    Where would Allan Green fit into that mix?