But it makes all parties look bad. Especially when the last fight was a whopping 6kg under the limit against a fighter retired over 3 years.
At the end of the day Stiffy, if the challenger is stupid/greedy enough to take said inducements and come in under weight, who is to blame?
Yes I understand all that but Phillip Austin / Leon surely knew about the 195 BS and just didn't let on or were told not to. I don't believe for 1 second that they didn't know.
It. was. not. in. the. contract. That is all that was ever claimed. I even said weeks ago to read between the lines, but apparantly such a clue signposted as that is a little too highbrow around this place.
Leon are you happy that Sugar Ray Leonard won a BS 175 lb title off LaLonde and made LaLonde weigh-in under 168 ? I don't care who it is, Green/Pacman/Leonard it doesn't matter a world title fight should always be at the limit and if fighters such as Green are using their financial clout for their opponent to have to weigh in under the limit at some catchweight / career low weight then that is as good as cheating to me. And please don't bring up - "Well it's up to the opponent to agree/disagree". A man with integrity would want to win/defend the title at the true limit.
Were there incentives for BJ Flores to weigh in under 195 ? and if so were you and Phillip Austin aware of this ? YES or NO
If weight incentives were never an option then we wouldnt even be talking about this. Its about maintaining integrity within the division, if the limit is 200LB then let the opponent weight in at 200LB, if he wants more money and your not willing to pay it, dont offer incentives to have him drop weight just so he can get paid. either dont pay him what he wants or do pay him, there is no middle ground and as such playing these stupid games that are no more than a ploy to gain an advantage against an opponent, if your so farkn good then fight them at 200LB. Leon didnt want to belive there was weight incentives, even when BJ took off his jocks to make 195LB. I told him over and over again that there was weight incentives and to watch carefully at the weigh in, he never even mention to me about BJ throwing the jocks off, i found out about it by reading news press released and what i found odd and pretty much spot on with my theory of this fight being Dannyweight was the fact that when reporters asked BJ why he took his jocks off, Danny interjected without even giving BJ a chance to respond and said "He wanted to show everyone where the weight is" or something along those lines. The Truth was, Danny put in weight stipulations in the 2nd contract. Is wasnt no weight incentive bullsht as BJ later revealed on his facebook. I knew it was Dannyweight because i followd his facebook at the time, i read his training, his diet etc and i seen what he looked like, i knew he was stripping weight and the only reason why would be because of Dannyweight STIPULATIONS, not incentives fellas... Lets not forget that Danny tried to get PAUL BRIGGS to come in at something like 185LB, did Briggs get incentives? he thumbed his nose at it and come in under the 200LB limit or close to, Danny was fuming mad, what the fck for? He is 200LB champ? Briggs wasnt over 200LB, but Briggs pulled a double whamy on Green, he fixed the fight with the help of the Sword boys and make a tone of money in the process. Danny paid him unlike he said that night on TV. wont say much more at this stage but Leon either dont speak up about what he knows or he is a dumb ass fcker! lol
Hey Ty, maybe Green is a cheat. Austin too, he probably is, and Leon, and Mundine and Left Jab Danny, and all the aus officials, and the promoters too, lets not forget the managers and trainers, ffs I don't even trust the ring card girls. Let's face it Ty, Everyone remotely involved in the sport is nothing more than a lying, coniving, two faced CHEAT. Everyone that is, except you Ty. You are the snow white, squeaky clean, well informed, messiah of the sport of boxing. An ever popular, by the book, shining example of all that could be good in the art of pugilism. Time to take over Ty. :happy
Onya mate! You've come a long way in such a short time. Two weeks ago you didn't know one thing about the sport, except the black guy normally wins. Now you know the ins and outs of weight stipulations and secondary contracts. Well done! Your mum will be no doubt very proud. Now **** off ya trolling alt.:hi:
No-one gives a **** what you think, Franus 192. You made up the 192 because you are a low, lying grub. I know you lied, but if you want to repair some of your credibility with the others, tell us all how it is you came by that number. If not, quit asking silly questions and go to bed. You've got an early start in the pool tomorrow morning.
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Credibility ? Does Phillip Austin and the IBO have any credibility. They just sell world titles to the highest bidder who also must be Aussies or South Africans. For whatever reason you are not in their stupid top 50 rankings they will just make up some nonsense about carry over points from when you last fought 5 yrs ago 3 weight divisions lower. Leon also conveniently states that the Flores 195 incentive/cheatingweight was not in the contract when he knows the score. Toni "little red riding" Hood who has 6 or 7 alts going. Don't talk to me about credibility you clown.:roll:
From memory of that situation Francis, the one thing I didn't agree with was (I think) there were two belts at two divisions available. When I heard about the weight inducements I thought it was a masterstroke. There is no obligation on the challenger to accept it. To me it shows where the head was, the money or the belt. You don't think Francis that this was the first time in a world title fight the champion has tried to use the belt to an advantage? If so, you need to do some serious reading, all the way back to Dempsey and before. It has, it is, and it will always be a part of boxing.