Green vs Wlodarczyk - Dannyweight?

Imo in world title fights catchweights should never be allowed. If a fight is organised like Pacman-Cotto at 145 then have the fight but the 147 pound title held by Cotto should not be on the line for Pacquiao to win.

 

The only credibility you need to worry about is your own. Where did you get the 192 figure from? Just admit you invented it and we can all move on.

As for my supposed 6 or 7 alts, feel free to list them.

 

Are you a drunk Toni ?

 

Your opinion is irrelevant. The sport's had catchweights for a century.

If you don't like it, start your own org and have Ty and Zelenoff battle it out for the inaugural title of p4p '****. A man of your integrity could save boxing, Franus192. Step up, son.

 

Francis surely your not naive enough to think that this is the first time it's happened. I couldn't believe Flores went for it, he didn't have to but in my opinion he fell for it hook, line and sinker. The bout was at Cruiserweight, yet he chose to come in lighter. Thats all at the end of the day. He wasn't forced, he thought he could come in lighter, collect some coin and win. In the end, he didn't turn up to fight so maybe from his end it was a smart decision to cash in. And at the end of the day, it wasn't contracted that he HAD to come in lighter.

Why do you think contracts stipulate gloves, ring size etc? You don't think the beltholder will try to ensure every possible advantage they can? A brawler wants the smaller ring, the boxer the bigger. Why does the champ always have a rematch clause? I've heard some great clauses over the years and in all honesty, the inducements offered to Flores were probably some of the cleverest I've heard. And at the end of the day, none of those inducements were in the contract. Like I explained to Ty, very slowly, at the time.

 

Go on Franus, back your mouth up.

What are my 6 or 7 alts that you keep referring to?

 

Leon you are a good guy and a good poster on here but as a boxing fan you seem content with this catchweight nonsense for world title fights. I completely disagree with you on this and I am shocked that a true boxing fan like yourself is willing to over look this in our sport. Just because this nonsense has always happened doesn't make it right, the same goes for ring size, glove choices etc etc.
Why did Green offer "incentives" for Flores to drain down to 195 if he is a boxer of integrity as he makes out. Doesn't Danny realise that this makes him look bad to boxing fans or doesn't he care as 90 % of his paying customers are general sports fans/league/afl fans who don't know **** and wouldn't know the difference ?
I find it hard to believe that any true boxing fan is happy for world title fights to be held at catchweights. I think boxing has gone down hill to the extent that fans are getting used to nonsense titles/catchweights/ridiculous corrupt decision making by organisations that it is becoming the norm. Younger fans growing up know no different. The sport is just getting worse and worse.

 

You know who they are. When you sober up you might remember even with your low brain cell count.

 

Hate to disappoint you Franus192, but I don't drink.:good

Go on, if you can't list 6 or 7, at least try to name 3 or 4.

:hi:

 

So we are now in agreement that the last 3 Danny Green fights have been at Danny Weight?

The weight reduction incentives were a clever piece of work from the Green camp I would have to agree. The more greedy the opponent is, the more disadvantaged they would be. Flores was the greediest of the lot. Biggs didnt give a **** as I believe he intended to take a dive at the earliest opportunity. All he had to do was come in under the official limit to guarantee his purse. Tarver came to win. In his case losing the extra weight probably made him a fitter fighter. He still seemed to have excess skinfold fat at the weight in.

Now the 200k question is whether the Wlod fighter has weight incentive clauses. Well a leopard doesnt change his spots. Green will be up to his usual tricks. I'm not a purist. I couldnt give a **** what the official weight is. I just want to be entertained by good fights.

 

I'll keep saying it, I know for a fact, there are no incentives/inducements etc, nothing, this next fight will be at the full Cruiser limit. Just remember who holds the belt here.

Francis they are not at Catchweight. Catchweight is a pre-determined weight that HAS to be made. Flores did not have to come in lighter, however he took the bait and chose to. Big difference. I'm shocked that you're so naive. I know of a lot worse things that some fighters camps have done, and in reality the Flores thing hardly registers to me. I still think it was very clever. I'd rather be up against that then someone weighing in in their hotel room or on a dodgy set of scales.

 

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NEW INFO

Ok guys I have some new info that Danny's supporters will try to sweep under the carpet.

My mail is that Wlod's training camp has been an absolute disaster with all his personal and health problems. He simple should not be fighting. There is no way he can make Danny's cheating 192 catch weight / incentive weight so the bout will now be at 200 lbs where it should have been anyway. Wlod's team is fuming at Team Green for all their bull**** and the only reason Wlod took their cheating antics was because he is desperate for money. His financial situation is not good. He is now only receiving a pittance for this fight so he simple won't mentally be there come fight night.

Expect this to happen. Wlod will only be mentally/physically 55 % for the fight so now it's a genuine 50-50 fight with all the advantages in Danny's corner. If Wlod was 100% we all know Danny would get another flogging like the commentator Tarver dished out to him last time.

If Danny does win expect a truly cringeworthy after fight speech that will make boxing fans embarrassed. Hyder will continue to verbally abuse/bully Danny's brother in the corner while doing his best Joel Judah impersonation.

Danny will only make 1 title defence against the rubbish Shane Cameron in Perth at Subiaco then retire again without defending against the WBC's top contenders.

 

But you're actually correct with a lot of what you have written. I think Cameron's back at Heavyweight.