Buster, no one ever said he would be severly weight drained, or definetly loose at 192. All has been said is that it would be an advantage to green (and how can you say it wouldnt be?). Be rational for a second Buster, yes he has voluntarily come in at 196.75 however that was 3 fights ago (and a coma ago haha) Seriously though here is his last 8 fights; 198¾ 197¼ 196¾ 202¼ 198 200 200 199¼ That takes us back 8 fights and over 4 years. So safe to say his median weight over the last 4 years is a lot closer to 200 then 192 yeah? Francis may have been just spinning **** anyway, we wont know untill official weigh in, however if he weighs in under 195pounds I think it is clear there was an incentive! No buster I do not think that will make him severly weight drained and definetly loose, but I think at 192pd or so it would be an advantage to green, and would leave a sour taste in most punters mouths after a few shady things green has done over last few years. Bit silly to say that 6 pounds doesnt make a differenc, why then up is there pretty much a new weight division for every 7 pounds or less? Straweight 105 lbs Junior Flyweight 108 lbs Flyweight 112 lbs Super Flyweight/ Junior Bantamweight 115 lbs Bantamweight 118 lbs Super Bantamweight /Junior Featherweight 122 lbs Featherweight 126 lbs Super Featherweight /Junior Lightweight 130 lbs Lightweight 135 lbs Super Lightweight /Junior Welterweight 140 lbs Welterweight 147 lbs Super Welterweight /Jnr Middle 154 lbs Middleweight 160 lbs Super Middleweight 168 lbs Light Heavyweight 175 lbs Cruiserweight 200 lbs Heavyweight > 200 lbs
Buster. Have you lost your head? Of course losing stripping 5 pounds from a lean mean elite athlete will affect performance. Even a newbie like myself can see that. That extra 5 pounds is not fat like you or me, its 5 pounds of solid muscle.
looking at those weight classes, there really should be a weight class between light heavy and cruiser in all reality, the median difference between classes is about 8 pounds, then it jumps to 25 between light heavy and cruiser? thats a bit silly
Dawso, agreed, the median would be even less if you took out the jump to cruiser, like 5 pd or something then. Main point was though i think it is clear that for an elite athlete with minimal body fat as it is, it is not optimal to stip additional weight. I am not saying (as buster tries to twist peoples words) that he will be severly weight drained or definetly lose, I am just saying it is not ideal, and an advantage to green if he weighs in around 192. Do you agree dawso? As i said francis may be full of it anyway? who knows, Dawso would you concur that if wlod weighs >195 then there was most likely some sort of financial incentive from GMP?
yeah mate i agree that it would be more advantageous to green if wlod came in below 195, personally i dont think it will happen, the lower weights have been because he was staggering his weight gain as he got adjusted to cruiser, hence there being no stipulations in the tarver fight. i think greeny shouldnt come in above 195 no matter what , theres no point coming in that heavy just for the sake of it , he needs to be more mobile and dart in with his double left jab to set up bigger rights and left hooks if he wants to win the fight.
Dawsoj, always a good poster! Even when someone has a different oppinion able to talk with respect and keep it to boxing! Thanks for the honesty aswell. Appreciated mate, and lets hope it is greater thatn 195 for a good fight!
the dick with the first post wanted reassurance that a despicable, pathetic fighter named green had not imposed incentives for the pole for this fight. he is adament that the pole just tried to end his life and green is buying his title so to speak. why doesn't the guy show some TESTICLES and put his money on regardless of the weight. he is WEAK, that's why. he is just looking for an excuse in case green wins. he doesn't have to give credit then, lol.
cheers mate you too! if everybody had the same opinions itd be a boring place around here, but some people do step over the line occassionally , i just try to keep it to boxing. Yep hopefully its a good old fashioned slugfest mate theres some good fights coming up all over the place
Oh **** being called a dunce by you.atsch Now you're saying if he comes in at 192 it makes no difference. Why do you think he offered Flores incentives to come in light? You can post in caps all you want and claim victory but your hero has history of manipulating situations to his advantage but hey as long as people like you let it slide and still buy his cards good luck to him.:good oh I forgot to add lol.lol
This topic has long been discussed on boards such as these mate and all we've been waiting for is a catchy name to call the new division , Dannyweight anyone ?
If Francis had proof he would have posted it. He is **** stirring but going by past history he may be right.
atsch so Buster, if a guy wants to bet on a horse race and he asks the horse's trainer how the horse is doing, whats his weight going to be etc, then the punter asking the questions is looking for excuses? if anything the punter is doing his research, moron! :blurp