greeter fighter - Duran or Ali

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Mark Dunham, Feb 6, 2022.


  1. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And because of this ...we always give him the benefit of the doubt...but the facts remain
     
  2. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Liston was a skilled boxer
     
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  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Nothing meaningful in it.
     
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  4. ThatOne

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    That "big stiff idiot" recaptured the heavyweight title at 45.
     
  5. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    That is a good point, but he was getting his ears boxed off up till that round.
     
  6. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Kind of like Conn-Louis but the latter wasn't five years away from being eligible to join AARP.
     
  7. Flash24

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    Duran was the superior fighter overall.
    Ali defeated the best competition in heavyweight history.
    Were the fighters Ali defeated better skilled than
    Dejesus, Leonard, Benitez ,Hearns or Hagler?
    Doubtful, and no.
     
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  8. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Both have fantastic resumes, but Ali never bitched out in a fight. That's the difference make for me. No Mas is just so unbelievably bad.
     
  9. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic War for Souls Full Member

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    I always look at Muhammad Ali's career like this: what if he hadn't had a break in his 3.5 - year career. He would certainly be even more successful. So I vote for Muhammad Ali.
     
  10. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well, Duran only defeated two of them, so the comparison is a bit off.
     
  11. bboyrei

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    Duran. Much longer and successful career, starting from an ATG in his natural weight class and winning belts as he advanced up including achieving the rare old beats young for a title. Can't really hold the Leonard and Hearns losses against him as he redeemed himself every time people casted doubt. Ali just overshadows him due to HW popularity over other weight classes and his persona outside the ring. Also had some questionable or gifted wins throughout his career.

    Another thing, Duran was voted fighter of the 70s, the same decade Ali regained his title against Foreman and fought practically everyone in the HW division.
     
  12. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    He held on for dear life in his rematch v Frazier.
     
  13. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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  14. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    Ali? No, it is something close to God who wins out here easy peasy- bow to your stone handed king.
     
  15. JackSilver

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    But they would have all beaten DeJesus, Leonard Benitez, Hearns and Hagler. I don’t think that’s doubtful and no.