Greg Leon advised Allan Green to turn down 450.000$ for a Pavlik fight?

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  1. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    plus training expenses ...

    WTF is wrong w/ this guy ... complete story on ESPN.com under Dan Rafael's blog.
     
  2. konaman

    konaman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'd fight Kelly Pavlik for 450,000.
     
  3. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    He priced himself out by asking for 750k when this guy has never won a significant fight - nor has he won an eliminator throughout his career.

    He also turned down two proposed fights against up and coming super middleweight prospects Andre Ward and Andre Dirrell ...

    He says he's a star and shouldn't be fighting on ESPN any more ... yet when he fought against Miranda he ran, kept looking down at his feet, and almost got knocked out in the 10th round.
     
  4. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    Especially for a title and all my training paid for ... thats a nice house for what its worth and a nice GMC Envoy ...
     
  5. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  6. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    dam thats an coo house out her in cali. some one needs to tell Green

    D is FOR DUMB !!!
     
  7. SmokinJoe

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    ???? :huh

    Dan Rafael published the nasty, whole story on his blog including the allegedly scuffle with Arum (just go on ESPN.com and then click on the free Rafael blog)

    I guess we won't get exclusive Bobfather interviews on his website anymore.....
     
  8. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    Thats why his site has run in the shitter he doesnt know what the **** he is talking about
     
  9. letsrun4it

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    Like any negotiation, each side threw out numbers and they went from there. Holden said he asked for $750,000. Eventually, he and Arum settled on $450,000. Holden also said he got the fight without having to give Arum options on any of Green's future fights in the event he won (with the exception of a rematch). That's pretty impressive. It should be noted that Pavlik's last opponent, Gary Lockett, made just $250,000 for their fight last month.

    Next Holden told Arum he would take the offer to Green for his approval, which should have been a no-brainer. Pretty simple, right? Sure, until an inexperienced adviser gets involved, which is exactly what happened.

    Green had recently started working with neophyte Greg Leon, who convinced Green that they should have asked for more than $1 million, a number so preposterous for that fight that it would be funny if it wasn't true. That's when Arum, Holden and Leon got on a three-way telephone call, one Holden said he advised Leon against doing. During the call, Leon angered and disrespected Arum to such an extent that he hung up the phone.

    "Bob and I have done millions of dollars worth of deals over the years. We respect each other and have worked well together, and we had a deal," Holden said. "The adviser got on the phone with me and Bob, and it was a disrespectful conversation, and Bob hung up."

    Holden said after the call Leon phoned him and said Green would take the offer.

    But it was too late.

    "I called Bob back, and the offer was off the table. Bob told me, 'I'll never be disrespected like that again,'" said Holden, who added that he had no hard feelings toward Arum.

    Arum, so incensed, said he instructed his receptionist not to take Leon's repeated calls.

    "They got this genius adviser who doesn't know what the [expletive] he's doing," Arum said. "They were pretty stupid. What they asked for was stupid, so the offer is off the table. You get a guy like Tony Holden, who knows the business, so what the hell does [Green] need that moron who doesn't know the business as a so-called adviser? That so-called adviser gave him bad advice."
     
  10. letsrun4it

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    His site isn't even accessible anymore. A little tip for Leon--- you will never make any money on Allan Green unless he makes 3-4 million a fight and the only way that is happening is if he actually beats an elite level fighter.
     
  11. SmokinJoe

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    Well if you think about it, 450.000 for a Pavlik fight could be considered peanuts, but Allan Green is not Jermain Taylor or Arthur Abraham.
    Given his position (completely out of the picture for nearly 2 years) he should have accepted, unless of course making middleweight was too hard and he knew he would be weight drained.
     
  12. bigtime-skills

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    Boxingtalk.com does suck now:-(
     
  13. fitzgeraldz

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    Like I said in my thread ... that 450k wouldve bought him a nice house maybe a mini estate in OK and a GMC envoy ...
     
  14. Samurai

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    Co-sign.
     
  15. letsrun4it

    letsrun4it Member Full Member

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    Greg Leon is an idiot. Arum is in the right here, can't do business with unprofessional people or it encourages them.

    Unless he's dissing top rank so that when Mayweather comes back he signs with Leon...then he's a genius