Greg Page.....why on Earth was he still fighting?!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Lionel Rose, Apr 28, 2009.


  1. Lionel Rose

    Lionel Rose Guest

    I just read that Page was paid $1500 (£1025) for his last, doomed fight.

    How sad that a once decent fighter, who shared the square ring with such luminaries as Jimmy Young, Trevor Berbick, Tim Witherspoon, Gerrie Coetzee, and, in later years the likes of Buster Douglas, Joe Bugner and Orlin Norris, should be reduced to the role of professional punch bag for boxers who, (in the infamous words of Larry Holmes) would not have been fit to carry his jockstrap in days gone by.

    One could argue that after about 1992 (at the very latest), his services were used just to pad out the 'W' column of mediocre fighters, save for an 18 month period between 1996/97 when he was fed a dozen 'tomato cans' to knock over in the early rounds.

    However, being hit repeatedly in the head by big guys over a 20+ year span cannot be good for anyones health, and this sad story highlights the perils of fighting on way, way past a boxers' prime.

    I sometimes feel that boxers' licences should be withdrawn sooner, to protect them from themselves, and I fear the likes of Evander Holyfield and Riddick Bowe will be risking serious damage to themselves if they are allowed to pursue glory in what is, fundamentally, a young mans' sport.

    RIP Greg Page.
     
  2. CLUBBER

    CLUBBER C.R.A.B. BOXING Full Member

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    Yes...sad story...
     
  3. HomicideHenry

    HomicideHenry Many Talents, No Successes Full Member

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    Page actually had a very damned good resume when he made his 'come back'. He scored up well over 20 wins, and was fighting for various minor titles. It wasnt like he was completely over the hill and was down to being a human punching bag. Page was still good enough to be a hard fought test for any up and coming prospect. He just got caught, it happens to fighters.
     
  4. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    It's called the glamour decade. Coke and other drugs from the loose and easy 80's weren't exactly cheap habits.

    Two of the biggest earners in boxing history from the 80's, Tyson and Holyfield, pissed it all away. Is it suprising that Page did too making the smallest fractions of what they did?
     
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  6. HomicideHenry

    HomicideHenry Many Talents, No Successes Full Member

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    Remember 'Dynamite' Dokes?
     
  7. marting

    marting Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And how 'bout Big John Tate.
     
  8. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Don King probably stole all of his money like he did just about every other early 1980's Heavyweight.
     
  9. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    There is no anwer to that question.

    You may as well ask it of a blind Langford or a broke Louis.

    I guess, it's all they know how to do, is the closest I can get to an answer.
     
  10. Lionel Rose

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    And who were his 'wins' against?
    Like I said, for 18 months he was fed a dozen or so 'fighters' with barely a 'win' between them.
    I stick to my assertion that, in the main, he was just a paid punch bag - a 'name' fighter to look good on some up-and-comer's resume.
     
  11. HomicideHenry

    HomicideHenry Many Talents, No Successes Full Member

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    Going 20-5-1 (18 ) when you're in your late 30's to early 40's, weak oppisition or not, is quite the feat, considering he came back in 1996 after a three year lay off. His only losses during this period (other than the Crowe disaster) were to guys like Robert Davis, Monte Barrett (who were both undefeated at the time) and Jorge Luis Gonzales.

    If I recall, in 1999 he defeated Tim Witherspoon, and if you happen to remember, Witherspoon was also on the come back trail and gotten up there in the ranks that for a time there was talk of him getting a world title shot in his 40's, before getting derailed by Monte Barrett in 2001.
     
  12. Lionel Rose

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    Hey, c'mon man......Get real, will ya?!

    GP stopped fighting at 'World' level after 1986, and at 'Gatekeeper' level after 1992.

    Countless old pugs have had their records padded late in their careers, (Tyson, Tony Ayala, Jorge Paez, Yory Boy Campas, JC Chavez etc etc)

    Sure, they still have a rudimentary grasp of the basics, even in their late 30's and beyond, but fighting guys with considerably more 'L's than 'W's beside their names doesn't make you a 'live' contender still.

    So forget the 20-5-1 bullsh*t, if GP had managed to keep hold of some of his ring takings, it would have been better for all concerned if he'd retired 25 fights short of his final tally.

    And what's more, perhaps he'd still be walking among us today........
     
  13. markedwardscott

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  14. Lionel Rose

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    I doubt whether fighting for the 'Kentucky State Heavyweight Title' in front of 300 or so fans was much of a thrill.

    More likely, he didn't have a pot to p*ss in, and didn't have any other means to support his family.

    It's about time boxers were forced to pay a percentage of their ring earnings into some sort of trust fund, to which they have no access until they're, say, 50 years old.

    I don't wish to be over simplistic, but there are too many guys getting needlessly beat up because they've squandered all their purses, and they reach the end of their careers with nothing to show for it.

    These guys need to have professional advisers as mandatory, who look out for the boxers interests and not just those of the fat promoters.
     
  15. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    John Tate was NOT the boxer Greg Page was.... NO! Not at all........... Tate was KO'd by "Weaver & Berbick" in 1980 and called it a career.... BUT! Somewhere around 1983, Tate began training with Janks Morton and their was talk about Tate fighting Larry Holmes in Nov. of '83.... Thank Christ that all fell apart and Holmes wound up fighting Marvis Frazier instead....

    According to reports, by 1982, John Tate was 320 pounds and hooked on Cocaine and Oreo cookies..... A great combo...? As a fighter, Tate was DONE!

    :patsch:rofl:admin:scaredas:

    MR.BILL