Grip training

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by withoutwire, Dec 11, 2010.


  1. wayneflint

    wayneflint Active Member Full Member

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    Look at it like this ylem, if you carry on the way you are your ego is going to find you in the ring or street fight with a real fighter whos wanting to show you how its done once you've talked him into it through your ignorance and arrogance, believe me ive found myself in that position with a few cockey lads around here and its not my personality at all but with lads who think boxing is just a street fight but with gloves, lads that think they know it all and can beat anyone and dont listen to advice or reason, lads that believe when the time comes they can just throw a 'lucky punch' and knock out a good fighter like that. sometimes its the only way to get through to them without just chinning them in the street tbh.

    i usually take them to the gym rather than settle it with a street fight and do my best naz impression on them and tell them im only going to hit them once and just make them flinch and turn their back and fall over like girls with good feints here and there, i dont hit them. but you are so delusional that i fear for your safety in boxing and i fear someone will seriously hurt you trying to get the point across, afterall your not even functional against a light 100lb bag nevermind an opponent that weighs so much more (unless your boxing a 14 yr old).

    i tried to train a guy as delusional as you i had him in the ring with guys who werent even hitting him back just working defense and setting up counter punches without throwing them, he was supposed to work the jab and avoid using straight lines but just tried to take their heads off, he was so delusional he thought they where real bouts and he managed to convince himself he'd actually managed to land a punch on them and thought he had beaten them up and caused them problems god knows how he got this idea probably because everytime he punched he turned away like a girl.. needless to say after the lads found out what hed being telling everyone around here i couldnt let him spar with them anymore for his own safety. even after being humiliated without throwing a punch at him he still tells people he beat us all up to this day, until we're there infront of him or hes with someone who knows us aswell, its so bad its sort of funny in a way and we all joke about it, but the wrong guy would make a mess of him tbh.

    Moral of the story? i know some ****ing increadibly delusional people but you have made it to number 1 in my league of delusional people, right above the guy you see on the train that thinks hes jesus.
     
  2. Ylem

    Ylem Well-Known Member Full Member

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    lol, glad you wasted your time with that.

    how about you go punch your self right in the solar plexus or the liver then crouch over like my stance and punch your self in the solar plexus or liver.

    notice anything?
     
  3. wayneflint

    wayneflint Active Member Full Member

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    Yeh i noticed that i wouldnt even have to feint a body shot to feint you into position for a huge uppercut that would K.O you in that position, thrown properly i bet i could even get it to sit nicely on your adams apple. i could just throw one, how easy would that be? seriousely no need to set up or anything lol. an untrained streetfighter would even pick up on that major target, dont forget seen as though it looks like your trying to stick your head up your ass theres no need for a solar plxus jab because i can jab or cross your strange pertruding head from 6 foot away lol.

    Looks like a boxing Rumpelstiltskin lol.
     
  4. wayneflint

    wayneflint Active Member Full Member

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    Lol Egor has taken up boxing :!:
     
  5. Ylem

    Ylem Well-Known Member Full Member

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    so your going to upper cut through my forearm?

    how do you block an uppercut anyways? of yeah thats right you smother it with your fore arm.....and whats that below my chin thats connected to my hand thats directly infront of my chin......ohhh **** its my fore arm.....hell i wouldnt even have to think about your uppercut as my basic stance would inheriently block it....i might turn my palm out though to strengthen the biomechanics or what ever of the block.
     
  6. wayneflint

    wayneflint Active Member Full Member

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    Nope when you throw them despicably wide hooks or maybe better called handbag swings, thats when ill beat you off the mark with a straight, either right or left and an uppercut or use the straight left to set up a rediculously wound up right uppercut, when you punch with propper technique you have no problem blasting straight through that crumby guard m8 lol, an uppercut with good technique would pick you up off the floor with a target for it like that, ive seen it happen and done it to people myself. damn i could even just left hook that **** out of the way and straight right hand your chin lol, but that would just make you look too bad, just go outside and start on the nearest chav so he can expose you and we can be done with this im invincible i taught myself to look somthing like a boxer does crap. videos of the chav fight or your scared and cant box
     
  7. Ylem

    Ylem Well-Known Member Full Member

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    a straight into my shoulder? or my right thats now infront of my chin and closer to the left?

    and i am working on not opening up my hooks if anything that would be what needs to be worked on, not my stance.

    if you actually watched any of the videos other then the one i was sick and just hitting a bag around youd see that some of the hooks arnt nearly as open as some of the other ones.

    the lefts i throw shadow boxing arnt nearly as open and as every one knows left hooks on a heavy bag are much harder then on a speed bag or shadow boxing.
     
  8. Primate

    Primate Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just to reiterate:
    Seriously. No one is this dense. Don't feed the troll.
     
  9. Primate

    Primate Boxing Addict Full Member

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    dude, ewww :blood
     
  10. wayneflint

    wayneflint Active Member Full Member

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    Lol feed the troll, i cant help it >.<
     
  11. lefty

    lefty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What about if someone gets inside your range..? You are not protected in any way from body shots. Because of your hunched over stance your body is never protected, if you sparred somebody you'd find that out pretty quickly.
     
  12. Ylem

    Ylem Well-Known Member Full Member

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    so my elbows arnt tucked?
     
  13. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lets just make it simple... Have you sparred a decent boxer using your awful stance? We already know the answer...

    It's just so pathetic watching someone that has no clue and has never even sparred before trying to tell people that train boxers what is right and wrong. You've been told the gaps in your stance but you won't accept critisism of any kind. Are there no bounds to your egotistical stupidity? I would understand if you've sparred a few times and found that this stance works for you, but you haven't, and you've been told it's awful by coaches.

    Ylem, have you ever heard "You can talk the talk but can you walk the walk?"? You can talk the talk (even if it is complete bull****) but I very, very, very much doubt you could walk the walk as they say.
     
  14. lefty

    lefty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you tuck your elbows with your stance your head is going to be hanging out unprotected and if you cover up upstairs your body is presenting itself for a battering from all angles.
    If you stood up straight you could protect upstairs and downstairs with very little movement.
    Stop looking at the ground, that really messes with your balance and breathing.
    You'd be able to throw a left hook aswell if you stood up, you'd be in a position to raise your elbow and twist into it. At the moment it's a sort of awkward weak slap that is telegraphed like crazy. If you went to a gym a trainer could help you out with stuff like that.
    I think you could be good if you listened to advice, I think you said in another thread that you were only 22, I thought you were much older than that tbh. At that age if you listen there is still hope for you as a boxer. You need to chill with the ego, is it a security thing because you've been teased before? It's annoying as **** for everyone else but it's you who it's really going to hurt. Just listen and learn mate.
     
  15. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ylem, do you actually get that people are trying to help you, not insult you even after you've insulted all of us?

    You posted the videos up to either get critisism (like you said you wanted) or an attempt to prove to everybody you know how to box. You said you uploaded them for reason A (critisism), but it seems you expected reason B (people think you have a clue). Now you're getting cristisism, but because it's pretty strong your ego can't take it. Basically the best thing you can do is froget everything you think you know and start from the ground up. You've got some bad habits and they're bringing you down.

    Are you starting to get it yet?